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Bigger is not always better.

It doesn't even matter how big or small the res is because the bigger the res the longer it takes the kettle to boil, the performance part of any loop in reality is the radiator and fan setup you have. Waterblocks are so good these days it just falls down to which one you like the look of.
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post #51912 of 67694
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Short term loads and more water volume means cooler temps as the whole amount of water had not had the temp equalized

Beat me to it you sneaky devil you! biggrin.gif
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post #51913 of 67694
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Coming from someone that mounts 2 radiators after each other tongue.gifrolleyes.gif

Dude, what is up with that radiator setup? Why are you mounting a second radiator in front of the other?
swiftech even has a stackable line of radiators designed with this in mind...I considered this as an option but the marketplace here won out with the great deals smile.gif
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swiftech even has a stackable line of radiators designed with this in mind...I considered this as an option but the marketplace here won out with the great deals smile.gif

Please explain how stacking a radiator setup would cool the coolant better than conventional single rads? As the whole point is to push the heat away from the fins using air, so if the 1st rad pushes it's hot air into the 2nd, how does it cool the 2nd rad?
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Exactly! that was my point in the comment, that's like the same if you mount 2 car radiators in front of each other expecting to get better cooling. It simply doesn't make sense why would anyone do that.
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post #51916 of 67694
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Originally Posted by Benjiw View Post

Care to explain how hot air leaving the first rad instantly cools back to ambient to effectively cool the next rad in line? I want to know this magic!
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Please explain how stacking a radiator setup would cool the coolant better than conventional single rads? As the whole point is to push the heat away from the fins using air, so if the 1st rad pushes it's hot air into the 2nd, how does it cool the 2nd rad?

Hardware Labs did this to their GTX series rads. Not stacking 2 individual rads but enclosing 2 single pass radiators into one package. And the results are well, look them up. tongue.gif

The idea is to let the warm water enter the rad that is farthest from the intake. And the cool water to the source of the airflow.



And the result, the best rad in its class. No other 60mm rad can outperform it in pure performance during it's time.

Look up Martin's review.

The downside is, you have to be mindful of the orientation. As I stated earlier, wrong move and the performance is ruined.
Edited by mus1mus - 8/6/15 at 8:57am
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Wntet to run Prime95..... CPU is @4800Mhz @1,5V Idel and 1,536 on Load. Swiftech H240-X for cooling....
I tuned it a bit:

It worked well for 8 Minutes... then the ice was gone and the temos went to 70+..

I HATE YOU SUMMER and i will be damned befor i clock it down!
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Wntet to run Prime95..... CPU is @4800Mhz @1,5V Idel and 1,536 on Load. Swiftech H240-X for cooling....
I tuned it a bit:

It worked well for 8 Minutes... then the ice was gone and the temos went to 70+..

I HATE YOU SUMMER and i will be damned befor i clock it down!


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post #51919 of 67694
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Coming from someone that mounts 2 radiators after each other tongue.gifrolleyes.gif

Dude, what is up with that radiator setup? Why are you mounting a second radiator in front of the other?

it helped with my load temps as before i stacked it the fx used to hit 60c in ibt and gpu was 56c, now after adding the second rad the cpu hits 54c in ibt and gpu nows hits 51c
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Hardware Labs did this to their GTX series rads. Not stacking 2 individual rads but enclosing 2 single pass radiators into one package. And the results are well, look them up. tongue.gif

The idea is to let the warm water enter the rad that is farthest from the intake. And the cool water to the source of the airflow.



And the result, the best rad in its class. No other 60mm rad can outperform it in pure performance during it's time.

Look up Martin's review.

The downside is, you have to be mindful of the orientation. As I stated earlier, wrong move and the performance is ruined.
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Originally Posted by mus1mus View Post


Hardware Labs did this to their GTX series rads. Not stacking 2 individual rads but enclosing 2 single pass radiators into one package. And the results are well, look them up. tongue.gif

The idea is to let the warm water enter the rad that is farthest from the intake. And the cool water to the source of the airflow.



And the result, the best rad in its class. No other 60mm rad can outperform it in pure performance during it's time.

Look up Martin's review.

The downside is, you have to be mindful of the orientation. As I stated earlier, wrong move and the performance is ruined.

Simplyfied math (T3 - T4) - (T2-T1) = Tf where T3 is the temp of the water input in the rear radiator directly from the CPU and T4 is the Delta T or heat exchanged. T2 is the temp of the water input into the front radiatiorand T1 is the Ambient air temp.
So lets say it was 55C out of the waterblock and after the pass through the rear radiator the water is 30C assuming 90% heat transfer. That is the temp of the water sent to the front radiator.
With a ambient temp of 20C the front radiator only has drop the temp from 30C to 20C. Which would exit at about 21C to the pump. If with sufficient mass of air flowing, the raise of the air temp to the rear radiator would be 1 to 5 degrees C.
The temp of the air flowing in to the rear radiator would only be a few degrees higher than front. When there is a significant Delta with the air and coolant in the rear radiator to do this.
That is about as simple as I can explain it without using calculus

Separate radiators are better because of the delta is the same on both radiators.

I have had this argument with another mechanic about putting a large trans mission cooler inline with the coolant loop in the radiator. Using the output line fom the transmission to the trans cooler into the original radiator lowered the operating temp of the engine under full load. This allowed the AC to be used when pulling a hill with full load (Daytime Mojarve Desert). It also stabilizes the temp of the engine and transmission and brings it optimal operating temp quicker. Operating a trans at 95C has the effect of boiling the condensation out while remaining inside the temp tolerance of the seals.

This made my head hurt, I am going to bed now.
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