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I´m with you !

The more we tune our RIG, the more pleasing is the overall experience.

Not just with AMD CPU´s, Intel too !

I have tons of fun trying to overclock, North Bridge, Hyper Transport, Memory, CPU, GPU, etc..etc..

Sometimes i have more fun optimizing my current overclock than gaming !

I know sound weird, i´m a nerd i guess ! !

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In the end, using this tunned FX RIG is a pleasure !

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Ain't that the truth!!

It's awesome just how much performance can be gained out of CPU and GPU overclocking, not to mention all the subsidiary tweaks to NB, RAM, etc....

Sure, it takes hours of testing to get there, but that's half the fun.....
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I like the way you think !

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Some years ago, when using Win Vista 64 with 4GB of memory, i did some tests without Page File.

The system become way faster and snappy, and i do not had any problems.

My guess is we will have problems only if the RAM really end.

With 8GB or 16GB, very few daily applications will be able to use all this memory, perhaps i will today, after job, try to disable the Page File.

I have forgot this little trick, but it is a very nice one !

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Take care dude !
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Anybody else run problem free with no pagefile?

When I went to 16GB a few weeks ago, I completely disabled mine, and have not had a single issue.
I had forgotten about it until I was monitoring my in game memory usages for the system RAM and VRAM the other day.

Edited by jclafi - 8/12/15 at 10:49am
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I don't know off the top of my head but some applications just won't work without one. I always leave a small PF
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I don't know off the top of my head but some applications just won't work without one. I always leave a small PF
I've also heard that some apps require one, I just haven't ran into anything yet.

I turned it off because I was getting some hitches in some games every once in a while, despite framerates being great.
Some people have reported the same thing time to time on AMD systems, and I wanted to see what the problem could be because the CPU was in no way under max load.....

After disabling the PF, the hitches were non-existent. Now, maybe going from 8GB to 16GB of system RAM helped, but I am inclined to believe that it was the amount of information being placed into the pagefile that was causing this.

Anyone experiencing any hitching at all in games should try this.

I have also found (a while back) that this is a good remedy for anyone running out of VRAM also.

My brother and I figured out that his modded GTX 660 (highly overclocked) could push over 60FPS on BF4 ultra at 1080P, but the VRAM was filling up (2GB) and causing stutters. We disabled the pagefile and it forced anything not fitting into the VRAM to run from the system RAM instead of paging. Mind you, this was with a Samsung 840 Pro SSD, so even with a fast drive, the pagefile just can't perform nearly as well as RAM can when swapping textures (or whatever else was being stored/accessed).

My understanding of how that all works may be a bit off, but the benefits were there regardless thumb.gif
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I've also heard that some apps require one, I just haven't ran into anything yet.

I turned it off because I was getting some hitches in some games every once in a while, despite framerates being great.
Some people have reported the same thing time to time on AMD systems, and I wanted to see what the problem could be because the CPU was in no way under max load.....

After disabling the PF, the hitches were non-existent. Now, maybe going from 8GB to 16GB of system RAM helped, but I am inclined to believe that it was the amount of information being placed into the pagefile that was causing this.

Anyone experiencing any hitching at all in games should try this.

I have also found (a while back) that this is a good remedy for anyone running out of VRAM also.

My brother and I figured out that his modded GTX 660 (highly overclocked) could push over 60FPS on BF4 ultra at 1080P, but the VRAM was filling up (2GB) and causing stutters. We disabled the pagefile and it forced anything not fitting into the VRAM to run from the system RAM instead of paging. Mind you, this was with a Samsung 840 Pro SSD, so even with a fast drive, the pagefile just can't perform nearly as well as RAM can when swapping textures (or whatever else was being stored/accessed).

My understanding of how that all works may be a bit off, but the benefits were there regardless thumb.gif
interesting...I've been old school up until now with pagefile being double the ram...but writing to pagefile then was the faster way...plus memory capacities weren't a drop in the bucket to what they are now....might have to try a very small one...if you set a small pagefile and it's exceeded does it spill over into ram?
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I don't know why people want to disable the pagefile to be honest.. its there for a reason and i discovered that if you temper with Windows it can get easily corrupt.

Games and other programs actually use the page file so disabling it causes trouble in some games and apps, in W7 i set it to 1024mb just in case because when i disabled it it causes corruption and i didn't have a good time.

So my advice on page file IF you want to tinker with it, do not get lower than 1024mb otherwise you can get problems in some apps and games an in the worst case corruption of your OS.
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My old car ,sold when I moved country.


Next car for next year, depending on family situation


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Guitars, I love them but I am a cheapskate, an assortment of Washburn, Les Paul Epiphone, Fender el-ac and a warwick streamer bass.
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Washed my Subi clean of wax tainted windscreens today. Invisiglass glass cleaner on Outback 06' until bust. Picked up carnauba wax, carpet, and upholstery freshener too.

Today I am on the other side, went Intel, up and running, even corrupted my Windows 10 install activation due to extreme hardware changes.

My question for you guys is, what should I list my FX-8320 for sale at (US dollars)? I must list that and my ASRock Fatal1ty 990FX on the market. I do not mind any private messages.

Thank you for humoring me these good few months fellas.
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I don't know why people want to disable the pagefile to be honest.. its there for a reason and i discovered that if you temper with Windows it can get easily corrupt.

Games and other programs actually use the page file so disabling it causes trouble in some games and apps, in W7 i set it to 1024mb just in case because when i disabled it it causes corruption and i didn't have a good time.

So my advice on page file IF you want to tinker with it, do not get lower than 1024mb otherwise you can get problems in some apps and games an in the worst case corruption of your OS.

Did you read my findings a page back?

It actually has some benefits.... if you do run into issues (which I have not, at all), then just RAMDISK 1GB of pagefile and use your RAM speed.....

It's a very good work around for VRAM caps, and it also helps with random game hitching (though increasing RAM or just reducing pagefile may help)

Edit: When I say no issues, I mean none so far....

It's been three weeks, tons of office app use by the wife, tons of gaming, tons of surfing, and lots of photo stuff......

Windows was putting way too much stuff in the page file, which is swapping from my disk, and not utilizing all the RAM I have...
BUMP THAT
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Have you tried the Final Fantasy XIV bench? It maxes out my hard drive so I disabled the pagefile and tried it, and it ran slower.
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