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I know that this UD5 has a thick board which made me think it might be heavy duty. The VRM's and NB are so much cooler than my UD3P with the same setup. Labor day weekend I'm going to put in my custom loop with UT60 and 2 bay res. I tested out in my shop and I can fill my radiator and the bubbles go away in a matter of minutes.


Oh, no issues with my bios at all except it's not like Asus with settings that you can see what you are doing. setting NB and HT here is a ***** when setting FSB. Have to boot to see what you got. I don't know the formula for this but I know it changes the higher you go with FSB.

Ahhh. Get what you mean. But it's pretty straight forward.

NB, HT, RAM values follows this scheme:

CPU NB, HT and RAM Speeds displayed are values at their respective Multipliers at stock FSB.

200 X 11 - 2200 CPU NB at Stock
200 X 13 - 2600 HT at Stock
200 X 9.33 - 1866 RAM at Stock or DOCP/XMP Profile

Note of these RAM Multis:
12 - 2400
10.66 - 2133
9.33 - 1866
8 - 1600

And the CPU NB useable multi:
10 - GOOD
11 - GOOD
12 - Have issues with Windows Aero on most Gigas ( avoid this multi )
13 - GOOD but only on 200 FSB.


So when you are tweak the FSB, say 229,

CPU-NB is
229 X Multi of 11 displayed as 2200, your actual value will be:
229 X 11 = 2519 (can still be okay but depends on your CPU)

While HT will be:
229 X 13 when using the 2600 Value. So,
229 X 13 = 2977 Actual. (too high: use a lower multi to stay within 2600)
So you should chose a lower value shown. I would advise the value 2200 or X11 to get 2519 (still below 2600 to avoid issues caused by the HT OC.)

Lastly for RAM:
Try to stick to default values or known RAM frequencies to start. See above.

229 X (what is shown as 1866, which is actually 9.33) = actual RAM speed. So

229 X 9.33 = 2133 (depending on your kit, you might wanna set a relaxed timings to get this speed and bump your RAM Voltage or, go for a X8 or 1600 multi to give you 1832)

Try to boot at this settings for a start and verify. smile.gif

I hope this is clear. As being on mobile to explain this. biggrin.gif

Do the math when messing with FSB. This us the Primary reason why most can't get their system to boot when messing the FSB.

If you wanna go higher, drop those multis to stick within known good values.

My go to numbers are to get these RAM speeds,
229 for 2133
233 for 1866
250 for 2000
267 for 2133
225 for 2400
258 for 2400

All while keeping CPU NB within CPU accepted values that is either a hair above or just equal to the RAM speed targeted.
Edited by mus1mus - 8/14/15 at 9:32pm
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Dat fwd v8 tho
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Check out these latency readings on my Giga UD5 R5.




I'm using H100i for cooling.
Edited by MTup - 8/14/15 at 9:29pm
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Originally Posted by mus1mus View Post

Ahhh. Get what you mean. But it's pretty straight forward.

NB, HT, RAM values follows this scheme:

CPU NB, HT and RAM Speeds displayed are values at their respective Multipliers at stock FSB.

200 X 11 - 2200 CPU NB at Stock
200 X 13 - 2600 HT at Stock
200 X 9.33 - 1866 RAM at Stock or DOCP/XMP Profile

Note of these RAM Multis:
12 - 2400
10.66 - 2133
9.33 - 1866
8 - 1600

And the CPU NB useable multi:
10 - GOOD
11 - GOOD
12 - Have issues with Windows Aero on most Gigas ( avoid this multi )
13 - GOOD but only on 200 FSB.


So when you are tweak the FSB, say 229,

CPU-NB is
229 X Multi of 11 displayed as 2200, your actual value will be:
229 X 11 = 2519 (can still be okay but depends on your CPU)

While HT will be:
229 X 13 when using the 2600 Value. So,
229 X 13 = 2977 Actual. (too high: use a lower multi to stay within 2600)
So you should chose a lower value shown. I would advise the value 2200 or X11 to get 2519 (still below 2600 to avoid issues caused by the HT OC.)

Lastly for RAM:
Try to stick to default values or known RAM frequencies to start. See above.

229 X (what is shown as 1866, which is actually 9.33) = actual RAM speed. So

229 X 9.33 = 2133 (depending on your kit, you might wanna set a relaxed timings to get this speed and bump your RAM Voltage or, go for a X8 or 1600 multi to give you 1832)

Try to boot at this settings for a start and verify. smile.gif

I hope this is clear. As being on mobile to explain this. biggrin.gif

Do the math when messing with FSB. This us the Primary reason why most can't get their system to boot when messing the FSB.

If you wanna go higher, drop those multis to stick within known good values.

My go to numbers are to get these RAM speeds,
229 for 2133
233 for 1866
250 for 2000
267 for 2133
225 for 2400
258 for 2400

All while keeping CPU NB within CPU accepted values that is either a hair above or just equal to the RAM speed targeted.

Only thing Mus is that I'm at 1800 NB in this bios with 281 FSB which gives me 2529MHz NB. Did I miss something?

Ram has become easy for me now. Bout time huh.
Edited by MTup - 8/14/15 at 10:25pm
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Originally Posted by mus1mus View Post

Ahhh. Get what you mean. But it's pretty straight forward.

NB, HT, RAM values follows this scheme:

CPU NB, HT and RAM Speeds displayed are values at their respective Multipliers at stock FSB.

200 X 11 - 2200 CPU NB at Stock
200 X 13 - 2600 HT at Stock
200 X 9.33 - 1866 RAM at Stock or DOCP/XMP Profile

Note of these RAM Multis:
12 - 2400
10.66 - 2133
9.33 - 1866
8 - 1600

And the CPU NB useable multi:
10 - GOOD
11 - GOOD
12 - Have issues with Windows Aero on most Gigas ( avoid this multi )
13 - GOOD but only on 200 FSB.


So when you are tweak the FSB, say 229,

CPU-NB is
229 X Multi of 11 displayed as 2200, your actual value will be:
229 X 11 = 2519 (can still be okay but depends on your CPU)

While HT will be:
229 X 13 when using the 2600 Value. So,
229 X 13 = 2977 Actual. (too high: use a lower multi to stay within 2600)
So you should chose a lower value shown. I would advise the value 2200 or X11 to get 2519 (still below 2600 to avoid issues caused by the HT OC.)

Lastly for RAM:
Try to stick to default values or known RAM frequencies to start. See above.

229 X (what is shown as 1866, which is actually 9.33) = actual RAM speed. So

229 X 9.33 = 2133 (depending on your kit, you might wanna set a relaxed timings to get this speed and bump your RAM Voltage or, go for a X8 or 1600 multi to give you 1832)

Try to boot at this settings for a start and verify. smile.gif

I hope this is clear. As being on mobile to explain this. biggrin.gif

Do the math when messing with FSB. This us the Primary reason why most can't get their system to boot when messing the FSB.

If you wanna go higher, drop those multis to stick within known good values.

My go to numbers are to get these RAM speeds,
229 for 2133
233 for 1866
250 for 2000
267 for 2133
225 for 2400
258 for 2400

All while keeping CPU NB within CPU accepted values that is either a hair above or just equal to the RAM speed targeted.

Here are some screen shots. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Edited by MTup - 8/14/15 at 10:35pm
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Only thing Mus is that I'm at 1800 NB in this bios with 281 FSB which gives me 2529MHz NB. Did I miss something?

Ram has become easy for me now. Bout time huh.

What do you mean?.

You really need to go for lower multi the higher you go on the FSB.
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What do you mean?.

You really need to go for lower multi the higher you go on the FSB.

I understand that but I have to back off my NB & HT frequency and then reboot and check cpu-z to see where I'm at. Look at my screen shots. NB is 1800 and I'm really running at 2529MHz. I got a tip from someone once to start both NB and HT at 2000MHz and check cpu-z and I've been doing that ever since except now I have an idea what it might be so it's easier.


Edit: Screen shots 2 posts above
Edited by MTup - 8/14/15 at 11:06pm
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Do you guys think I will have enough radiator space once my Fury's arrive? I have 680mm of radiator. Following the law of 120mm per 150w that gives me around 850w or so. My CPU chows pretty much spot on of 300w at 5GHz and each Fury will consume around 275w. So yeah it will end up being almost exactly 850w. Funnily enough the same as my power supply. I'm probably gonna have to up size my PSU or lower my CPU OC if I want to get some extra juice out of my Fury's.
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I understand that but I have to back off my NB & HT frequency and then reboot and check cpu-z to see where I'm at. Look at my screen shots. NB is 1800 and I'm really running at 2529MHz. I got a tip from someone once to start both NB and HT at 2000MHz and check cpu-z and I've been doing that ever since except now I have an idea what it might be so it's easier.


Edit: Screen shots 2 posts above

Just keep the actual multipliers in mind and do the math yourself, instead of going blind, hoping to boot and check cpu-z

All are based on stock Fsb ie 200

200x9=1800
200x10=2000

And so on, so if you have 281 Fsb and "1800" Nb speed that is a multiplier of 9
281x9=2529 actual Nb frequency.

Not as simple as Asus bios where it automatically calculates frequency but once you get the hang of it even manual calculations go pretty fast...
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Is it worth looking to overclock the NB on my 8320? Right now I'm running at 4.5 core.
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