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Thank you.

I've de-lidded in total 15 soldered processors with success. On average a 10c drop in temps. The captain of my HWBot team has the FX-8320 I de-lidded easily hits 5.2ghz with that chip.

FX-6100 De-Lidded
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FX-5000 De-lidded (Athlon 5000) basically an unlockable Phenom II

plenty of Phenom and Phenom II processors as well.

As you may have saw, I inquired about APUs being soldered so I can de-lid some of those also.

I still don't understand how you're getting a massive drop in temps from taking off the heat shield? And why aren't we all doing it?
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I still don't understand how you're getting a massive drop in temps from taking off the heat shield? And why aren't we all doing it?

OK I'll try and explain this as best as possible....

The IHS plate is made of copper. It has X amount of mass. First the Cpu needs to heat this amount of mass before it reaches the thermal interface material. Then the thermal interface material absorbs the heat and transfers it to more copper mass, the water block. Then the water block collects and dissipates heat to the water (or w/e liquid). Then that heat is transferred to more copper, the rads and is dissipated via air cooling.

I'm simply removing The copper IHS plate and it's ability to retain a heat or temperature before dissipation occurs to the TIM, water block ect.

Essentially, there is less copper to absorb heat before transfer, therefore the heat from the silicon transfers to the water block faster.

If I could avoid TIM alltogether and solder the water block to the silicon, that would be an even better faster transfer of heat because solder is better, but having extra copper absorbing the heat is not better.

So silicon to water block transfers heat faster, the waterblock has plenty of surface area by itself.

Gotta keep in mind that the spreader (Or integrated Heat Sink/spreader) only touches the silicon at the surface area of the silicon only any ways.

Some of that heat is transferred back to the PCB of the processor through the glue around the edges also, thus increasing sockets temps that little bit more. I am also removing this transfer of heat by removing the IHS plate, thus ALL heat is dissipated directly to the cooling apparatus.
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Why isn't every one doing this???

They lack my skillz bro. thumb.gif
post #52573 of 67699
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OK I'll try and explain this as best as possible....

The IHS plate is made of copper. It has X amount of mass. First the Cpu needs to heat this amount of mass before it reaches the thermal interface material. Then the thermal interface material absorbs the heat and transfers it to more copper mass, the water block. Then the water block collects and dissipates heat to the water (or w/e liquid). Then that heat is transferred to more copper, the rads and is dissipated via air cooling.

I'm simply removing The copper IHS plate and it's ability to retain a heat or temperature before dissipation occurs to the TIM, water block ect.

Essentially, there is less copper to absorb heat before transfer, therefore the heat from the silicon transfers to the water block faster.

If I could avoid TIM alltogether and solder the water block to the silicon, that would be an even better faster transfer of heat because solder is better, but having extra copper absorbing the heat is not better.

So silicon to water block transfers heat faster, the waterblock has plenty of surface area by itself.

Gotta keep in mind that the spreader (Or integrated Heat Sink/spreader) only touches the silicon at the surface area of the silicon only any ways.

Some of that heat is transferred back to the PCB of the processor through the glue around the edges also, thus increasing sockets temps that little bit more. I am also removing this transfer of heat by removing the IHS plate, thus ALL heat is dissipated directly to the cooling apparatus.
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Why isn't every one doing this???

They lack my skillz bro. thumb.gif

Is there a guide on how to do this? headscratch.gif

I've heard deliding Intel, but not AMD...
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Is there a guide on how to do this? headscratch.gif

I've heard deliding Intel, but not AMD...
There is actually. And I need to make one for this forum board as well..... Maybe I could copy paste the one I'm going to link you here in a few seconds.

Hopefully it could be something to sticky!

Any how, here you go. http://classicplatforms.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=230&t=8321

Just remember there is risk involved. I am not responsible if you brick your own cpu.....

edit: Even if I did this for some one, there is risk involved and would not hold myself accountable even with my many successes. I have killed a couple few.....
Edited by ShrimpBrime - 9/7/15 at 9:10pm
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There is actually. And I need to make one for this forum board as well..... Maybe I could copy paste the one I'm going to link you here in a few seconds.

Hopefully it could be something to sticky!

Any how, here you go. http://classicplatforms.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=230&t=8321

Just remember there is risk involved. I am not responsible if you brick your own cpu.....

Thanks for the link!

I have a spare 8350 to try this on.

I'll have to read the guide first, to see what is involved...

+REP for the help...
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There is actually. And I need to make one for this forum board as well..... Maybe I could copy paste the one I'm going to link you here in a few seconds.

Hopefully it could be something to sticky!

Any how, here you go. http://classicplatforms.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=230&t=8321

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edit: Even if I did this for some one, there is risk involved and would not hold myself accountable even with my many successes. I have killed a couple few.....

What killed them?
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How high do the stock heatsinks go, can I get to 4.4-4.5? i dunno if my aio is going out on me
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How high do the stock heatsinks go, can I get to 4.4-4.5? i dunno if my aio is going out on me

Definitely not with the stock heatsinks, pretty rubbish really, wouldn't wanna go over stock myself
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How high do the stock heatsinks go, can I get to 4.4-4.5? i dunno if my aio is going out on me



Definitely not with the stock heatsinks, pretty rubbish really, wouldn't wanna go over stock myself

Still depends on your Voltage levels.

And if you have the old type with the heat pipes, pretty easy to get 4.4 on them. They are just a little off the mighty 212 in performance. Just louder.
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I find that hard to believe, from everything I'm reading it's barely good enough for stock clocks, which makes sense, these chips put out some serious heat

Throw the stock cooler on yours, ramp it upto 4.4 and run IBT wink.gif
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