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i have this set...only its red and 8 gb 2x4 couldnt find the set i bought need to look on the sticker for the exact model
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231571

And i also have these

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231460

Not much info on them right?

They also tend to use different chips from kit to kit. So hard to get a grasp of the actual chips unless you open the Heatsink.

(My first of DDR4s from Gskill were Hynix's which are good clockers but with 2 sticks failing memtest on XMP. The replacement they sent me uses Samsungs. still clocks to 3200 from a base of 2400 albeit looser timings than the first kit.)
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Not much info on them right?

They also tend to use different chips from kit to kit. So hard to get a grasp of the actual chips unless you open the Heatsink(My first of DDR4s from Gskill were Hynix's which are good clockers but with 2 sticks failing memtest on XMP. The replacement they sent me uses Samsungs. still clocks to 3200 from a base of 2400 albeit looser timings than the first kit.)
yeah gskills website had specs the same four or five values... doesnt say much lol...they run great and never had an issue out of them but they seem to be like ragged edge of their capabilites without voltages im not comfortable puttinge through them... tightening any of the timings on either kit from rated speeds even with a voltage bump they wont boot....thats what i get i guess but at least ive never had a doa gskill stick and they run at rated speeds...i guess cl9 at 2133 is pretty good anyhow...the 1866 kit will run at 2133 but at cl 11 timings.. which defeats the purpose really they score lower than 1866 at cl9 so... not worth it
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Not much info on them right?

They also tend to use different chips from kit to kit. So hard to get a grasp of the actual chips unless you open the Heatsink(My first of DDR4s from Gskill were Hynix's which are good clockers but with 2 sticks failing memtest on XMP. The replacement they sent me uses Samsungs. still clocks to 3200 from a base of 2400 albeit looser timings than the first kit.)
yeah gskills website had specs the same four or five values... doesnt say much lol...they run great and never had an issue out of them but they seem to be like ragged edge of their capabilites without voltages im not comfortable puttinge through them... tightening any of the timings on either kit from rated speeds even with a voltage bump they wont boot....thats what i get i guess but at least ive never had a doa gskill stick and they run at rated speeds...i guess cl9 at 2133 is pretty good anyhow...the 1866 kit will run at 2133 but at cl 11 timings.. which defeats the purpose really they score lower than 1866 at cl9 so... not worth it

Ram takes a lot of patience to manipulate. It's not something you can just throw numbers at and hope they work. Voltage is also important as you can have too much as well as to little which will affect performance. 16Gb double sided kit and 8 Gb single sided have different characteristics even if they have the same chips under the spreaders.
My advice for ram is using AMDOD for in windows adjustments and AIDA64 for testing. Vary the voltage for the ram and you NB since both affect the outcome. If things aren't balanced right, they will not work right.
Here's the ROG Bios guide it'll give you a bit of info on mem settings and how they interact with the others and AMD chipset
http://rog.asus.com/7112011/crosshair-motherboards/asus-crosshair-v-formula-bios-guide-overclocking/2/
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Not much info on them right?

They also tend to use different chips from kit to kit. So hard to get a grasp of the actual chips unless you open the Heatsink(My first of DDR4s from Gskill were Hynix's which are good clockers but with 2 sticks failing memtest on XMP. The replacement they sent me uses Samsungs. still clocks to 3200 from a base of 2400 albeit looser timings than the first kit.)
yeah gskills website had specs the same four or five values... doesnt say much lol...they run great and never had an issue out of them but they seem to be like ragged edge of their capabilites without voltages im not comfortable puttinge through them... tightening any of the timings on either kit from rated speeds even with a voltage bump they wont boot....thats what i get i guess but at least ive never had a doa gskill stick and they run at rated speeds...i guess cl9 at 2133 is pretty good anyhow...the 1866 kit will run at 2133 but at cl 11 timings.. which defeats the purpose really they score lower than 1866 at cl9 so... not worth it

Ram takes a lot of patience to manipulate. It's not something you can just throw numbers at and hope they work. Voltage is also important as you can have too much as well as to little which will affect performance. 16Gb double sided kit and 8 Gb single sided have different characteristics even if they have the same chips under the spreaders.
My advice for ram is using AMDOD for in windows adjustments and AIDA64 for testing. Vary the voltage for the ram and you NB since both affect the outcome. If things aren't balanced right, they will not work right.
Here's the ROG Bios guide it'll give you a bit of info on mem settings and how they interact with the others and AMD chipset
http://rog.asus.com/7112011/crosshair-motherboards/asus-crosshair-v-formula-bios-guide-overclocking/2/


Which is why I'm terrible at overclocking ram.....lol
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Which is why I'm terrible at overclocking ram.....lol
C'mon man it's just one number at a time. Not much different than a CPU just a few more buttons to push. thumb.gif
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Which is why I'm terrible at overclocking ram.....lol
C'mon man it's just one number at a time. Not much different than a CPU just a few more buttons to push. thumb.gif

lol I know , but it also seems to be what screws up an OS too.

It's much easier to accept the fact that I'm too ham-fisted to be a top notch overclocker than it is for me to change wink.gif.
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Tis true on the OS part....

I find it easy sometimes to just "settle" on RAM settings for a little while, and then regain my patience and take another crack at it later.

Seems like the amount of time in actually testing clocks... then timings.... is a lot lengthier that overclocking all other hardware.

I do like to push everything to it's limit though, so I generally find myself spending several days on the RAM (with lots of frustrated breaks in between), but not until I've tinkered with the CPU for several hours. tongue.gif
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Tis true on the OS part....

I find it easy sometimes to just "settle" on RAM settings for a little while, and then regain my patience and take another crack at it later.

Seems like the amount of time in actually testing clocks... then timings.... is a lot lengthier that overclocking all other hardware.

I do like to push everything to it's limit though, so I generally find myself spending several days on the RAM (with lots of frustrated breaks in between), but not until I've tinkered with the CPU for several hours. tongue.gif
well tbh I probably won't spend the time to tweak my memory in all likelyhood I don't really bench often and I've seen little to no improvement by switching to 2133 cl9 from 1866 cl9...except in benches...but I was just curious as to what governs it...thanks to johan for the link I understand it a little better but don't think I'll spend my time tweaking something that doesn't show much improvement...for me that time is better spent enjoying my games and connecting with friends to take names...if it showed improvement as overclocking gpu and cpu does I would be doing it right now...
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You're absolutely right about the OS, I've toasted many BIOS this way too. The bright side is you pretty good at installing windows. typer.gif
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Which is why I'm terrible at overclocking ram.....lol
C'mon man it's just one number at a time. Not much different than a CPU just a few more buttons to push. thumb.gif

lol I know , but it also seems to be what screws up an OS too.

It's much easier to accept the fact that I'm too ham-fisted to be a top notch overclocker than it is for me to change wink.gif.

^Ditto biggrin.gif
 
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