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If it can cool better than an AIO, then it's one hell of a cooler tbh
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your killer board will probably top out around 4.6 unless you have a good clocking chip that doesn't need a lot of voltage...be sure you get a fan for front vrms and rear socket if you plan anything over 4.2 or you will experience hard vrm throttles and socket temp issues...and fan can run for years at that speed usually the problem us that it's loud and if it's running that fast it's probably at it's limits...one good thing is that fan works great for a vrm fan if you keep the rpms down under 4k...you want vrm fan and socket fan blowing towards the board with socket fan offset so the center of the fan is in the space between the backside of vrms and the socket because there is a dead spot in the center of the fan where air doesn't flow
Thanks for your advice..however, do you mind to share with me what is vrm? Where is it located? and also rear socket?

And also my motherboard is ASRock Fatal1ty 990FX Killer, is this motherboard consider a high end motherboard?

Besides that, I noticed that the temperature show from F-Stream Tuning is different from other third party software, wondering which is accurate.


Edited by steven6489 - 9/20/15 at 6:00pm
    
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So let me get this straight, it costs $139RRP... yet cools slightly better than an AIO you can get for a fraction of that price? It's a no from me, the peltier creates heat and needs to be cooled while already cooling a CPU which creates heat, so thats 2 heat sources one tiny little heatsink needs to cool. I just don't get it, overclocking an AMD on that would be pointless...

Depending on the rating and the workload of the Peltier.

For the application, the cooling duty of the peltier needed to be minimized to avoid further issues such as condensation and icing the cooler, and the socket. So the heat output (Peltier) can be minimized. But I wouldn't think of Peltier to work Perfectly. rolleyes.gif
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Problems related to peltier cooling

As mentioned above, high power usage and high power dissipation are the biggest problems related to peltier cooling. In the days of first-generation Pentium CPUs, readymade peltier/heatsink combinations were widely available, which could be installed and used just like a regular heatsink.
For today's CPUs having a power dissipation of over 100W, building a Peltier CPU cooler using just a peltier element and a heatsink is quite a challenge, and ready-made peltier coolers are scarce and expensive. With such coolers, over 200W of heat may be dissipated inside the case. For modern CPUs, it is better to combine peltier elements with watercooling. In any case, the resulting cooling system will be expensive to run, due to its high power usage, and not very eco-friendly. The large power dissipation will require powerful (and thus loud) fans.

Also, keep in mind that if the cooling of the peltier element fails (e.g. fan failure or pump failure in case of watercooling), the results will be more disasterous that if a conventional cooling system fails. Even if your CPU has a thermal protection that will cause it to shut down if the temperature gets too high, the peltier element may still kill it by continueing to heat it up long after it has shut itself down.

Another problem related to peltier cooling is condensation. Since it is possible to cool components below ambient temperature using peltier elements, condensation may occur, which is something you'll definitely want to avoid - water and electronics don't mix well. The exact temperature at which condensation occurs depends on ambient temperature and on air humidity; we will look at this in more detail in part 3 of the Peltier Guide.

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Check Part 4: biggrin.gif
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Thanks for your advice..however, do you mind to share with me what is vrm? Where is it located? and also rear socket?

And also my motherboard is ASRock Fatal1ty 990FX Killer, is this motherboard consider a high end motherboard?

Besides that, I noticed that the temperature show from F-Stream Tuning is different from other third party software, wondering which is accurate.

I find hwinfo64 to be the closest to the physical sensor I used to have...the vrm is the voltage regulation modules they will be to the left of your cpu under the heatsink that has the killer logo on it...you will want a fan there facing towards the board...you can affix it with double sided tape or find a screw that will fit between the fins...or you can get creative...if you take the right panel off of your case you will see the back of the motherboard through the cutout...the backplate for the cpu will have a hole in it...this is your socket it literally is the socket that the cpu sits in and the immediate surrounding area is called the socket...to the right of that in a line you will see a black backplate this is the backside of the vrms you will be putting a fan on the front of...the fan for the socket should be placed so the center of the fan is between the two(vrms and socket) and the blades are over the two areas to be cooled smile.gif....also no it's not high end I would say it's middle of the road motherboard..but it's capable just wouldn't expect a really high overclock.
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I find hwinfo64 to be the closest to the physical sensor I used to have...the vrm is the voltage regulation modules they will be to the left of your cpu under the heatsink that has the killer logo on it...you will want a fan there facing towards the board...you can affix it with double sided tape or find a screw that will fit between the fins...or you can get creative...if you take the right panel off of your case you will see the back of the motherboard through the cutout...the backplate for the cpu will have a hole in it...this is your socket it literally is the socket that the cpu sits in and the immediate surrounding area is called the socket...to the right of that in a line you will see a black backplate this is the backside of the vrms you will be putting a fan on the front of...the fan for the socket should be placed so the center of the fan is between the two(vrms and socket) and the blades are over the two areas to be cooled smile.gif....also no it's not high end I would say it's middle of the road motherboard..but it's capable just wouldn't expect a really high overclock.

Thanks for your patient to explain to me..really like this forum which can give me a lot of info about overclock kind of stuff.. smile.gif
I guess I wont be overclock to very extreme level due to my PSU..but will try to play around to get overclock fun..
    
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Any of you experience audio/video hitching while watching videos when you play games simultaneously? I tend to play games on my monitor while watching online videos on the TV and usually get some hitch/lag on the video/audio.

Lag/skipping tends to happen when I. Boot up a game. Then whenever I am in game (not menu) the audio on the streaming video changes in pitch a little.

Not sure this is due to insufficiency of the CPU, related to HDD sleeping and waking up, or RAM. Maybe I should monitor my CPU and RAM usage in this scenario.
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Anyone have any thoughts on this....

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/phononic-cpu-cooler-for-high-performance-computing#/story

Seem a good idea if a bit expensive.

Ohhh no AMD fittings yet though.

Eh, graph shows it performs a tiny bit better than an OEM clc. Since it's only compatible with Intel CPUs, a OEM CLC would mean an average 120mm version which costs much less. My guess is a 240mm CLC will do better at similar/lower costs. IMO they aren't telling enough details. OEM CLC, Standard/Traditional Heatsink and Fan. Running Max to get ~10C less temps from a traditional heatsink and to match a 120mm clc seems bad. Especially if it costs what ~$130RRP
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Any of you experience audio/video hitching while watching videos when you play games simultaneously? I tend to play games on my monitor while watching online videos on the TV and usually get some hitch/lag on the video/audio.

Lag/skipping tends to happen when I. Boot up a game. Then whenever I am in game (not menu) the audio on the streaming video changes in pitch a little.

Not sure this is due to insufficiency of the CPU, related to HDD sleeping and waking up, or RAM. Maybe I should monitor my CPU and RAM usage in this scenario.


I assume you run FX at stock speed. If not, you should make sure you are 100% stable. Beyond that, the FX8350 doesn't have any trouble in such scenarios, actually it's like the scenarios that likes most. I can play while having live internet stream or i can play while doing x264 encoding and nothing happens.

I would suggest:

1) Change drivers (GPU, audio and network in particular).
2) EDIT: Never mind, you already have SSD.
3) Update your video codecs.
4) Potentially motherboard defect.
5) Check your SATA cables, if plugged in well and in good condition.
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Thanks for your patient to explain to me..really like this forum which can give me a lot of info about overclock kind of stuff.. smile.gif
I guess I wont be overclock to very extreme level due to my PSU..but will try to play around to get overclock fun..
looking at what you have 4.4 is achievable possibly 4.6 if your chip will run it at a low voltage...the asrock killer board has a lot of vdroop...on mine the difference from the bios to Windows was .07v and the difference from idle to load was .07 so .14 difference from bios setting under load...I use ibt avx (the first post of this thread has the link) for testing cpu overclock on very high at least 10 passes be sure you have hwinfo64 it similar open so you can see your temperatures this program will work your cpu harder than gaming or anything you will normally do...both in terms of heat and load so it's a good indicator of cpu stability and your coolers ability and it tests ram ok too
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I assume you run FX at stock speed. If not, you should make sure you are 100% stable. Beyond that, the FX8350 doesn't have any trouble in such scenarios, actually it's like the scenarios that likes most. I can play while having live internet stream or i can play while doing x264 encoding and nothing happens.

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1) Change drivers (GPU, audio and network in particular).
2) EDIT: Never mind, you already have SSD.
3) Update your video codecs.
4) Potentially motherboard defect.
5) Check your SATA cables, if plugged in well and in good condition.

Thanks. It's actually overclocked to 4.8Ghz and for all I know it's stable. 50 Runs of IBT Max, 8+ hours of IBT Small FFT and Blend, 8+ hours of OCCT and AIDA64, etc. No crashes in game, rendering etc.

GPU drivers are the newest and I did a clean wipe with DDU before installing them. I don't think it can be the storage since Chrome is on the SSD while my games are on the HDDs. Additionally I even set my HDD to never sleep.

Only thing I can do is to try upgrading video codecs, audio driver, and maybe see if my RAM has attained more errors even at lower frequencies. I'll try disabling c1e
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Thanks. It's actually overclocked to 4.8Ghz and for all I know it's stable. 50 Runs of IBT Max, 8+ hours of IBT Small FFT and Blend, 8+ hours of OCCT and AIDA64, etc. No crashes in game, rendering etc.

GPU drivers are the newest and I did a clean wipe with DDU before installing them. I don't think it can be the storage since Chrome is on the SSD while my games are on the HDDs. Additionally I even set my HDD to never sleep.

Only thing I can do is to try upgrading video codecs, audio driver, and maybe see if my RAM has attained more errors even at lower frequencies. I'll try disabling c1e
At 4.8ghz you won't really be taxing that motherboard so you should be fine and it should be stable as all hell too because 4.8 on these is pretty easy to get.
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