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post #52981 of 67898
I'm not going anywhere undetvolter. With the monies I'm forking out for my rebuild Imma be stuck with my Vishera for at least another 3 years. Yes Jim Keller or whatever his name is left. But many forget that he left 1 year into K8's design. It still took another 3 after that before K8 hit the shelves. And look at what a success that was. I'm not saying ZEN will be a success or it won't. But this guy has been working on this chip for 3 years now. The chip has been taped out. Jim has done his work. What's he to do now. Sit on his but for two or three gens while AMD does their version of ticks and refines the chips. Nope. He is off to the next best thing. (maybe he is off to Quallcom to help sort out Snapdragon. God knows they need it)
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I was freaking out with Keller leaving too but apparently Zen and Zen+, aka the first two iterations of Zen, are practically done as far as groundwork/design. The only things that may be effected is apparently Zen3 and Zen4 but who knows.
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Also try disabling your antivirus if you run one. Things that run at startup generally, may conflict with drivers. If all fails, i 'd format, just to bring everything back to top shape. If even this doesn't work, i 'd seriously consider that the motherboard has some defect...

Also run this:

http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml

^ Do you get all "green" bars? Or do you get red ones too? If you get "red", you have some running program or driver that is ruining things. For example, i can tell you that both Asrock AXTU and Gigabyte's ET6, produce red bars if left in background and you have streaming problems.

Thanks for your help but as in a reply to another member I said the problem is gone. It was either C1E or HPET being enabled in the BIOS.
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looking at what you have 4.4 is achievable possibly 4.6 if your chip will run it at a low voltage...the asrock killer board has a lot of vdroop...on mine the difference from the bios to Windows was .07v and the difference from idle to load was .07 so .14 difference from bios setting under load...I use ibt avx (the first post of this thread has the link) for testing cpu overclock on very high at least 10 passes be sure you have hwinfo64 it similar open so you can see your temperatures this program will work your cpu harder than gaming or anything you will normally do...both in terms of heat and load so it's a good indicator of cpu stability and your coolers ability and it tests ram ok too

In HWINFO64, which 1 i should look for? Why CPU and motherboard CPU is different reading?

    
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Gigabyte UD5 or UD7 is fine too..

I happen to be unlucky with my board but before that i was running the same GHz as the Sabertooth and it could handle it just fine.

The Sabertooth runs very very hot but the UD5 is runnign much cooler, i guess its due to its design. But i must say that the Sabertooth is a better overclocker but the UD5 is a better all rounder.

UD5 has better audio, has better places of connections and IMO looks a lot better if that's important for you. I do know that Asus has an terrible customer care center while Gigabyte is better.

This is my own experience.

My UD5 blew its VRM and took out my original 8350, it also wouldn't run my ram properly without overvolting the crap out of it at it's rated speed (1600mhz I had to pump 1.65v into it or it would fail to boot). My experience with the newer UD5s hasn't been great either as you have to configure them a bit more than a sabre as I turned some crap off on the UD5 rev 3 and it would fail to boot properly, but this was due to not setting voltage the same as another one? I can't remember but it just seemed a bit backward to me.

My UD5 ran hot as balls too so not sure why you think the sabre is hotter?
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No he didn't.

He said everybody wants fair reviews and those tweets along with the nano itself got taken out of context (like you are doing now).

AMD doesnt have to ship out hundreds of samples to review sites.......people just assumed they would.

Now i dont agree with what he said but please don't take it at face value as Roy is actually a very nice guy and he wouldn't be that nasty wink.gif
Yeah yeah...I'll still be around here as well tongue.gif

I don't agree lol, from what I read with context he acted out like a noblet and then apologised for doing so later on, I do hear he is a nice guy with a strong personality or opinionated you would call it which I can relate to on sooooooooo many levels lol. If AMD can keep a zipper on Roy, get Zen to compete with Skylake and I hear they recently hired a decent dude for the GPU side too? I have my fingers crossed I really do but... I dunno if they can do it.
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My UD5 blew its VRM and took out my original 8350, it also wouldn't run my ram properly without overvolting the crap out of it at it's rated speed (1600mhz I had to pump 1.65v into it or it would fail to boot). My experience with the newer UD5s hasn't been great either as you have to configure them a bit more than a sabre as I turned some crap off on the UD5 rev 3 and it would fail to boot properly, but this was due to not setting voltage the same as another one? I can't remember but it just seemed a bit backward to me.

My UD5 ran hot as balls too so not sure why you think the sabre is hotter?

My vrms blew up too but that was because i was pushing too hard without a fan on them.

RAM and CPU speeds were no problem at all and i could bench up to 5.3 GHz IF ambient were low enough. I have the proof somewhere on D: driver but i have to look for it.

The first one i had was the rev 1.1 and that was the best UD5 our there. After RMA i got rev 3.0 which was horrible and the bios is a nightmare and just like you said i had to put an enormous amount of volts to the CPU and RAM to get it just as stable as on the rev 1.1

I returned it to the store and they said that they would give me my money back because this was the 3rd time that i had problems with this board.

Well i can't say for certain because the UD5 hasn't got an temp sensor on it but the Saber does, and its get very very hot under full load at 5 GHz. Maybe i can adjust some more settings in the bios to make it run cooler but as for now it runs quite hot.

The fan on the back of the motherboard really does wonders, my socket temps do not exceed my actual core temp as it sits 10-20C lower. That's quite obvious because i have my 2700 RPM Corsair (tornado) fan mounted at the back biggrin.gif
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@Steven your running 1.312 v and your cpu is that hot?
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Anyone have any idea what the hells going on at AMD?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/20/jim_keller_quits_amd/

Just when I thought all was going well and maybe ZEN might turn out to be quite good....Jim walks off the plank!
Normal operating procedures for him. Not to worry (google him)
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Did you see the **** storm that went down with the Nano and Roy Taylor ***** AMD is going to die out soon enough or get bought out by intel because the things that are going on in that place never cease to amaze me. rolleyes.gif

I don't know who Roy Taylor is (i imagine their GPU head designer or something), but i read the Nano has consistent coil whine, if you mean that. Which, yes, makes you wonder "don't they try them before sending them to mass production?".

There is no way to "prevent" coil whine.

Coil whine can be caused by power input voltage and quality (ac), the psu output (dc), psu ( 2 exact same psus on same pc one may whine and other not) mother boards... ect.


There is no way to effectively test for this. Never has been. Never will be

People are staying to notice it more as we are able to push the pcs father and father. I think it will only get worse from here as frame rates continue to rise
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In HWINFO64, which 1 i should look for? Why CPU and motherboard CPU is different reading?

the cpu that is listed under the 8320 category is your core temperature....the cpu under the motherboard temperature is going to be the socket temp...as you can see your socket temp is 15c higher you can see why a fan would help...ideally you want it to be within 10c 5c would be best...was this at idle? The algorithm that amd uses isnt accurate until around 40c so under load you will see how your cooler is performing...if you see the core nearing 70c that's the stopping point a brief spike is ok but you don't want sustained temperatures above 70c
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@Steven your running 1.312 v and your cpu is that hot?
he's on stock cooler and everyone knows that thing never mounts well...at least the two I've used never mounted properly
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RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
G.Skill rip jaws  Samsung 840 Pro WD BLUE 64MB Cache Ocz vertex 3 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Swiftech h220x  alphacool nexxos st30 280mm radiator alphacool coolplex pro LT10 100mm reservoir Swiftech h220 rad only 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 7 64 Bit ENTERPRISE edition Acer 23" 1080p  asus 19" Dell Media Center  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Rosewill Photon 1200W Phanteks Enthoo Pro Logitech G5 or Steel Series MW2 edition Generic Cheapy 
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