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IMO, If you don't have the hardware on hand, you can choose the specifics for the case. Unlike in my case, where a couple of 480s and 360s already waiting for a chance to be assembled properly, choosing a case becomes limited in choices.

What I am trying to say is, a well planned system will be worth it no matter what case you go for. As long as you execute things right, there's really no need to dwell in "this should've been a better case" etc. If you are planning to go full on water loop, plan things out, or look for some inspiration you would be willing to own. thumb.gif

I'm poor and cheap, so I guess I can't and will not own a CL. But they are beatifull cases indeed. I'm looking at the Enthoos now that they became available on my soil. Monies needed though. redface.gif
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IMO, If you don't have the hardware on hand, you can choose the specifics for the case. Unlike in my case, where a couple of 480s and 360s already waiting for a chance to be assembled properly, choosing a case becomes limited in choices.

What I am trying to say is, a well planned system will be worth it no matter what case you go for. As long as you execute things right, there's really no need to dwell in "this should've been a better case" etc. If you are planning to go full on water loop, plan things out, or look for some inspiration you would be willing to own. thumb.gif

I'm poor and cheap, so I guess I can't and will not own a CL. But they are beatifull cases indeed. I'm looking at the Enthoos now that they became available on my soil. Monies needed though. redface.gif

I understand. I have money ready for the loop from selling my mac but I don't want to buy too quickly since many things can happen.

Plans have changed again, which shows I have issues making decisions when I get ready to spend more than $300. I'm going to mod my 600T to fit the most radiators. I'm going to have to take apart the system and make approximate measurements for 420mm radiators. Might have to go with 360mm depending on fan choices.

I'd appreciate fan choice recommendations if I need 140mm fans, same with 120mm. The sp120l are too loud IMO.
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I understand. I have money ready for the loop from selling my mac but I don't want to buy too quickly since many things can happen.

Plans have changed again, which shows I have issues making decisions when I get ready to spend more than $300. I'm going to mod my 600T to fit the most radiators. I'm going to have to take apart the system and make approximate measurements for 420mm radiators. Might have to go with 360mm depending on fan choices.

I'd appreciate fan choice recommendations if I need 140mm fans, same with 120mm. The sp120l are too loud IMO.

Go for the Vardars. thumb.gif as good as GT's can get. Or GT of course. (Go for the one's that can rev up to 2K RPM. Solid choice for performance and Silence assuming PWM-controlled)
If the cost will hold you back, check out the Cougar Vortex if colors float your boat. 25mm Delta AFBs from old Dell systems are also very good and cheaper if you can get them. As well as Nidec's TA450V 38 mms that can spin down even at 3.3 Volts. And are PWM controlled .

Or check out @Cyclops's ]incredibly large repertoire of tested fans.
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Go for the Vardars. thumb.gif as good as GT's can get. Or GT of course. (Go for the one's that can rev up to 2K RPM. Solid choice for performance and Silence assuming PWM-controlled)
If the cost will hold you back, check out the Cougar Vortex if colors float your boat. 25mm Delta AFBs from old Dell systems are also very good and cheaper if you can get them. As well as Nidec's TA450V 38 mms that can spin down even at 3.3 Volts. And are PWM controlled .

Or check out @Cyclops's ]incredibly large repertoire of tested fans.

Thanks, going to check the link out soon. As for prices I'll guess it will depend on my final decision after research
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I can almost picture those little M$ gremlins in there hammering away at your system. tongue.gif



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I don't care for quality when the ones I am interested from Case Labs cost north of $500. You'll be surprised how little I spent on my computer components from the beginning til now. I bought 4-5 cases in my life time, and that's only cause my computers have been handed down as a whole or repurposed for another use. Never was the reason of purchase due to needing more. The 4-5 times I bought them they cost south of $50 except the 600T I bought for $70 and they are still used today. If you see the need for a CaseLabs then cool. I don't see the need or want to spend $1000+ on just cooling and case alone.

As for CL I'm not blessed to live in a big area so there are no Frys, Microcenter, etc and people try to sell their used items near MSRP. To small for niche market accessories. I swear I'm the only one who sells for a bargain around here. Owning a Case Labs is not high enough on my priority list to scavenge for a deal IMO.

That said I almost bought everything but postponed all purchases related to a case or custom loop parts for now.

The thing he's trying to say is, it would be better to get the CL because you will only buy once, you only buy good once even if it exceeds your budget, expectations and plans. If you're buying the Define S it is a decent case, my gf has one and I'm very impressed with it, I'm yet to put a system in it but she wants to do a Portal themed build and we already hit a road block because she wants 2 loops one blue and one orange but making 2 reservoirs fit inside it will be a struggle! If she bought a CL on the other hand, it would be no issue lol.

You'd only buy it once if you never wanted another case again wink.gif

Some people just like to change up cases every couple of years and they cannot justify spending that amount of cash on CL and i dont blame them tbh.

Each to thier own though smile.gif

Thats why I went with the Cooler Master haf Stacker If I need to expand I have options.. sure its big but what the hey.. it was worth the $160 for me
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I can almost picture those little M$ gremlins in there hammering away at your system. tongue.gif




Not quite what I pictured but a hell of a lot funnier. thumb.gif
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I don't care for quality when the ones I am interested from Case Labs cost north of $500. You'll be surprised how little I spent on my computer components from the beginning til now. I bought 4-5 cases in my life time, and that's only cause my computers have been handed down as a whole or repurposed for another use. Never was the reason of purchase due to needing more. The 4-5 times I bought them they cost south of $50 except the 600T I bought for $70 and they are still used today. If you see the need for a CaseLabs then cool. I don't see the need or want to spend $1000+ on just cooling and case alone.

As for CL I'm not blessed to live in a big area so there are no Frys, Microcenter, etc and people try to sell their used items near MSRP. To small for niche market accessories. I swear I'm the only one who sells for a bargain around here. Owning a Case Labs is not high enough on my priority list to scavenge for a deal IMO.

That said I almost bought everything but postponed all purchases related to a case or custom loop parts for now.

The thing he's trying to say is, it would be better to get the CL because you will only buy once, you only buy good once even if it exceeds your budget, expectations and plans. If you're buying the Define S it is a decent case, my gf has one and I'm very impressed with it, I'm yet to put a system in it but she wants to do a Portal themed build and we already hit a road block because she wants 2 loops one blue and one orange but making 2 reservoirs fit inside it will be a struggle! If she bought a CL on the other hand, it would be no issue lol.

You'd only buy it once if you never wanted another case again wink.gif

Some people just like to change up cases every couple of years and they cannot justify spending that amount of cash on CL and i dont blame them tbh.

Each to thier own though smile.gif

Thats why I went with the Cooler Master haf Stacker If I need to expand I have options.. sure its big but what the hey.. it was worth the $160 for me

I've had this discussion with quite a few people ever since the whole TT vs CL thing and I'll still stand by my original stance on it, CaseLabs obviously are great cases, people wouldn't spend that much on them if they didn't but that said the vast majority of people cannot justify the initial cost of going to a CL case.

I mean I'll put it this way.....I can buy 3 (yes three) Phanteks Enthoo Primo Ultimate's for the price of one CL case here in Aus and there are no second hand ones since they are too new here.
Or i could buy 5 TT Core X9's and stack them from floor to ceiling for the same cost, or again....i could get 5 HAF Stackers (both 935 and 915 portions).

For my own personal builds I'd rather spend the cash on what's going in the Case opposed to the case itself but i can see why people do want and get CL cases.

I actually own a Stacker myself........I'm using an air cooler in it atm.....shameful i know tongue.gif

My next case will most likely be a Phanteks Enthoo primo Ultimate since my only real choices for what i'm planning are a 900D, Core X9, Primo Ultimate or a CL case smile.gif
 
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I can almost picture those little M$ gremlins in there hammering away at your system. tongue.gif




Not quite what I pictured but a hell of a lot funnier. thumb.gif

Heh, that was my first thought when I read that and so happens to be my fave bugs bunny cartoon

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I don't care for quality when the ones I am interested from Case Labs cost north of $500. You'll be surprised how little I spent on my computer components from the beginning til now. I bought 4-5 cases in my life time, and that's only cause my computers have been handed down as a whole or repurposed for another use. Never was the reason of purchase due to needing more. The 4-5 times I bought them they cost south of $50 except the 600T I bought for $70 and they are still used today. If you see the need for a CaseLabs then cool. I don't see the need or want to spend $1000+ on just cooling and case alone.

As for CL I'm not blessed to live in a big area so there are no Frys, Microcenter, etc and people try to sell their used items near MSRP. To small for niche market accessories. I swear I'm the only one who sells for a bargain around here. Owning a Case Labs is not high enough on my priority list to scavenge for a deal IMO.

That said I almost bought everything but postponed all purchases related to a case or custom loop parts for now.

The thing he's trying to say is, it would be better to get the CL because you will only buy once, you only buy good once even if it exceeds your budget, expectations and plans. If you're buying the Define S it is a decent case, my gf has one and I'm very impressed with it, I'm yet to put a system in it but she wants to do a Portal themed build and we already hit a road block because she wants 2 loops one blue and one orange but making 2 reservoirs fit inside it will be a struggle! If she bought a CL on the other hand, it would be no issue lol.

You'd only buy it once if you never wanted another case again wink.gif

Some people just like to change up cases every couple of years and they cannot justify spending that amount of cash on CL and i dont blame them tbh.

Each to thier own though smile.gif

Thats why I went with the Cooler Master haf Stacker If I need to expand I have options.. sure its big but what the hey.. it was worth the $160 for me

I've had this discussion with quite a few people ever since the whole TT vs CL thing and I'll still stand by my original stance on it, CaseLabs obviously are great cases, people wouldn't spend that much on them if they didn't but that said the vast majority of people cannot justify the initial cost of going to a CL case.

I mean I'll put it this way.....I can buy 3 (yes three) Phanteks Enthoo Primo Ultimate's for the price of one CL case here in Aus and there are no second hand ones since they are too new here.
Or i could buy 5 TT Core X9's and stack them from floor to ceiling for the same cost, or again....i could get 5 HAF Stackers (both 935 and 915 portions).

For my own personal builds I'd rather spend the cash on what's going in the Case opposed to the case itself but i can see why people do want and get CL cases.

I actually own a Stacker myself........I'm using an air cooler in it atm.....shameful i know tongue.gif

My next case will most likely be a Phanteks Enthoo primo Ultimate since my only real choices for what i'm planning are a 900D, Core X9, Primo Ultimate or a CL case smile.gif

Out of curiosity what about the stacker doesn't sit well or fit the needs for what you are wanting?.. or is it just the dimensions?
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You'd only buy it once if you never wanted another case again wink.gif

Some people just like to change up cases every couple of years and they cannot justify spending that amount of cash on CL and i dont blame them tbh.

Each to thier own though smile.gif

Thats why I went with the Cooler Master haf Stacker If I need to expand I have options.. sure its big but what the hey.. it was worth the $160 for me

I've had this discussion with quite a few people ever since the whole TT vs CL thing and I'll still stand by my original stance on it, CaseLabs obviously are great cases, people wouldn't spend that much on them if they didn't but that said the vast majority of people cannot justify the initial cost of going to a CL case.

I mean I'll put it this way.....I can buy 3 (yes three) Phanteks Enthoo Primo Ultimate's for the price of one CL case here in Aus and there are no second hand ones since they are too new here.
Or i could buy 5 TT Core X9's and stack them from floor to ceiling for the same cost, or again....i could get 5 HAF Stackers (both 935 and 915 portions).

For my own personal builds I'd rather spend the cash on what's going in the Case opposed to the case itself but i can see why people do want and get CL cases.

I actually own a Stacker myself........I'm using an air cooler in it atm.....shameful i know tongue.gif

My next case will most likely be a Phanteks Enthoo primo Ultimate since my only real choices for what i'm planning are a 900D, Core X9, Primo Ultimate or a CL case smile.gif

Out of curiosity what about the stacker doesn't sit well or fit the needs for what you are wanting?.. or is it just the dimensions?

Well I am planning on 2 x 480mm rads and there aren't alot of cases out there that support that plus i really want to see what Phanteks cases are like up close biggrin.gif

That and the Stacker was actually provided for me from Cooler Master for all of my cooler testing and reviews and so it will remain as such smile.gif
 
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You'd only buy it once if you never wanted another case again wink.gif

Some people just like to change up cases every couple of years and they cannot justify spending that amount of cash on CL and i dont blame them tbh.

Each to thier own though smile.gif

Thats why I went with the Cooler Master haf Stacker If I need to expand I have options.. sure its big but what the hey.. it was worth the $160 for me

I've had this discussion with quite a few people ever since the whole TT vs CL thing and I'll still stand by my original stance on it, CaseLabs obviously are great cases, people wouldn't spend that much on them if they didn't but that said the vast majority of people cannot justify the initial cost of going to a CL case.

I mean I'll put it this way.....I can buy 3 (yes three) Phanteks Enthoo Primo Ultimate's for the price of one CL case here in Aus and there are no second hand ones since they are too new here.
Or i could buy 5 TT Core X9's and stack them from floor to ceiling for the same cost, or again....i could get 5 HAF Stackers (both 935 and 915 portions).

For my own personal builds I'd rather spend the cash on what's going in the Case opposed to the case itself but i can see why people do want and get CL cases.

I actually own a Stacker myself........I'm using an air cooler in it atm.....shameful i know tongue.gif

My next case will most likely be a Phanteks Enthoo primo Ultimate since my only real choices for what i'm planning are a 900D, Core X9, Primo Ultimate or a CL case smile.gif

Out of curiosity what about the stacker doesn't sit well or fit the needs for what you are wanting?.. or is it just the dimensions?

Well I am planning on 2 x 480mm rads and there aren't alot of cases out there that support that plus i really want to see what Phanteks cases are like up close biggrin.gif

That and the Stacker was actually provided for me from Cooler Master for all of my cooler testing and reviews and so it will remain as such smile.gif

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