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Originally Posted by mus1mus View Post

Just showed VDDA does affect something. Maybe a bit.

First picture showed Prime Blend for a couple of hours with VDDA at 2.8.
Did a change as shown in the 2nd picture. Dropped VDDA to 2.5.
Prime Blend failed a core within 20 minutes.
All things kept the same. thumb.gif

Try it the other way around with a setting of 2.5 first with a cold boot. Then you can eliminate heat or just random drop. What about IBT what does it say? One test isn't enough for a conclusion. Just saying rolleyes.gif
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Nice. Can you try the following?

267 FSB for 2133 MHz RAM With a loose timing for a start? biggrin.gif

BTW, in case you have seen this already, just ignore.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1148967/skynet-water-cooled-haf-x-840mm-radiator-990x-tri-sli-evga-580-hydro-coppers/0_50

I couldn't get 267 FSB w/2136 RAM but dropped it lower until I booted to this. I forgot I was running 4.91 CPU w/FSB 280 and left the 4.81 if that makes a difference. Also left CnQ on but that has never hindered anything before. You think my timings are too loose or need to be looser? Or should I go to 4.91GHz and try again?

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The UD3 rev4 as I know it is not capable of more than 4.8GHz. Reason being is that the BIOS of the rev4 is hard coded to throttle the chip when it exceeds a certain power draw. Regardless of temps. So yeah iI have personally never seen a UD3 rev4 above 4.8 and this is the most likely reason as to why.

Uh, well im not going to say you are wrong, but thats not my experience. The board gets hot, very hot. VRM temps hit 110c before i fixed it. Back then it would throttle bad. The stock vrm heatsink makes very poor contact with the modules because the PCB warped. I replaced the thermal pad with 11w/mk fujipoly and create a back plate/heatsink that sandwiches the modules/pcb between two heat sinks. This dropped my vrm temp to 78c with a fan on the rear of the board. I have had zero throttling since then.

With that being said i have ran the cpu at 4.9 and 5ghz (cinebench r15) without any throttling. It just wont pass stability tests beyond 4.8ghz.

I tried again today to get the chip to run 4.9ghz. It will, and it will pas IBT standard x20 but it fails high after about 6/7 fails very high after 3/4. CPU temps where hitting 61c averaging 57c and vrms never exceeding 90c. Bios Vcore setting was 1.53v!!!! Durring test it was running at 1.5v. This is way more voltage than what most 8370E users are having to throw at this chip to get 5+ghz.

I cant really recomend this mobo to anyone wanting to overclock an 83XX

I wish i would have got something better.... Im eyeballing the asus sabertooth now rolleyes.gif

With all that being said i had my FX-4350 at 5.33ghz on this ud3 id i think i could have got 5.4 out of it. thumb.gif
Edited by JerDerv - 10/2/15 at 4:40pm
post #53314 of 67685
you just said he was wrong and then said he was right, and proved him more right


cinebench is a BENCHMARK not a stability test
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VDDA?






VDDA definitely can play a huge role in stabilizing higher overclocks. It's very sensitive, so even small adjustments can result in stability, where previously it was in question.
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you just said he was wrong and then said he was right, and proved him more right


cinebench is a BENCHMARK not a stability test

Actually i was trying to be polite and explain that i agreed with his statement partially and disagreed with his reasoning by providing an example. I was not trying to start anything. Maybe i should elaborate?
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The UD3 rev4 as I know it is not capable of more than 4.8GHz.
Insert the word stable after 4.8ghz and i agree... However i have run the chip at both 4.9 and 5ghz in games and in cinebench r15. Yes i fully understand the difference between a benchmark and a stability test. I never meant to be misleading. I fully admit that i cant reach IBT/P95 stable above 4.8ghz. I do not however encounter any throttling.
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The BIOS of the rev4 is hard coded to throttle the chip when it exceeds a certain power draw.
In my experience this statement is wrong.... I no longer encounter any throttling as described by my previous post even at 4.9 and 5.0ghz (1.5-1.525v)
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So yeah iI have personally never seen a UD3 rev4 above 4.8
I have never seen anyone over 4.8ghz with an FX 8XXX CPU on a UD3 R4. So im in agreement.

Im by no means defending the board, i got it refurbished for $85. In hindsight i wish i spent twice that on a decent mobo.
post #53317 of 67685
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Originally Posted by Mega Man View Post

2.8 is pretty high. Idk the safe range and it may be fine. But you are talking about .3v higher. Only heard of 1 other person who had run it that high

I gotta say, this 8320 has been running 2.8 VDDA for quite a while now. (since
UD3) thumb.gif My 8370E is running the same.

Same levels since then. It's just showing it does little things. Even at my House ambient, 2.8 seems not giving me worries.

It also affect temps I believe. But on that test, it only showed 1-2C of variance from 2.5 to 2.8. Maybe even negligible.

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Try it the other way around with a setting of 2.5 first with a cold boot. Then you can eliminate heat or just random drop. What about IBT what does it say? One test isn't enough for a conclusion. Just saying rolleyes.gif

biggrin.gif same thing mate. Though a failing core on Prime Blend in 20 minutes often runs IBT Very High for more than 10 times before failing.

thumb.gif
post #53318 of 67685
@JerDerv

Sorry to confuse you buddy, most people here are stringent stability freaks. biggrin.gif

If they say things like, "can't do 4.8", they meant IBT AVX stable 4.8. thumb.gif

Also, it's not the clocks that throttle . My UD3 rev3 before killing it, didnt throttle on clocks. But rather Power throttling thus limiting high OCs. They do that or doing that coz if the power delivery components that may either be too hot, or simply delivering more than they are spec'd to.
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Originally Posted by mus1mus View Post

@JerDerv

Sorry to confuse you buddy, most people here are stringent stability freaks. biggrin.gif

If they say things like, "can't do 4.8", they meant IBT AVX stable 4.8. thumb.gif
fixed
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Also, it's not the clocks that throttle . My UD3 rev3 before killing it, didnt throttle on clocks. But rather Power throttling thus limiting high OCs. They do that or doing that coz if the power delivery components that may either be too hot, or simply delivering more than they are spec'd to.
which unless you run at full ( ie stressing or heavy gaming ) you wont see
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Point is ... i have an excuse to buy a better board! biggrin.gif
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