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Most of the Matx boards for FX chips only have 4+1 power phase and dont overclock well. I started with a Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 and even with fans on the VRM, the back of the board and an AIO cooler could only get it to clock to 4.4. I changed to a saberkitty and was able to clock to 5.0.

I would look at a good 990FX ATX board and a new small form ATX case with good airflow.
4.4 is my max on that same board and I water cooled the mobo vrm. For my situation its overkill already though.
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Give some more examples of what you like to play - the 970 should be fairly close to my 780ti, if you have a game I have, I would be more than willing to test it out for you on the 8 core.
You will have to make considerations for cooling, a case and power supply when jumping from the 5800k to an 8 core Vishera though.
EDIT: I don't think there is a suitable Matx board for the 8 cores so full atx is my advice.

I play anything from Borderlands to FFXIV, and Elite: Dangerous to Dishonored.
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I started with a Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3...
I would look at a good 990FX ATX board and a new small form ATX case with good airflow.

That's actually the board that I would have picked, if I did the swap. Glad to hear that the OC capabilities on it aren't the greatest.

My main thing with PC's, is that I love small form factors... I would prefer not to jump to a huge ATX case because of that, but would consider it, if the overall gains I got from performance vastly outdid what I have now. I'm running a highly modified EVGA Hadron Air, with watercooling.
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I play anything from Borderlands to FFXIV, and Elite: Dangerous to Dishonored.
That's actually the board that I would have picked, if I did the swap. Glad to hear that the OC capabilities on it aren't the greatest.

My main thing with PC's, is that I love small form factors... I would prefer not to jump to a huge ATX case because of that, but would consider it, if the overall gains I got from performance vastly outdid what I have now. I'm running a highly modified EVGA Hadron Air, with watercooling.

Something like this may be good
http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/carbide-series-air-540-arctic-white-high-airflow-atx-cube-case
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Something like this may be good
http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/carbide-series-air-540-arctic-white-high-airflow-atx-cube-case

I think that case is ugly, honestly. I really doubt that I would find a mid-tower case that I would truly like, after building SFF for quite a while.
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i assumed it was a non issue as long as it doesnt fail but 5 tests behind now seems like a lot... does it denote that core is not as efficient at compute or weaker? i would find it odd if windows denoted core 7 to take that much more load doing simple non intensive tasks.... just asking because i dont have a clue how windows schedules use of cores and whatnot smile.gif

Megaman is right. It can be any program running at background (including antivirus) or Windows itself running routines and it happened to pick that core to do it, so it lags behind. Start a new test and let the PC idle and you will see that the same core won't be lagging again so badly.
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The performance upgrade all depends on the games. I went from a 4.7GHz 860K to a stock 8350 and some games like ACU, DAI got a positive bump in FPS along with some other games. But since the 83XX can OC pretty well in general with the right supportive components I would say go for it.

DAI is the newest game i 've played (and was disappointed) and i remember that it loads at least 7 cores. Even Dragon Age Origins, i recall it was loading i think 6 cores when i was running FX6300. This is why they show the strength behind 8 core Vishera. Unfortunately, the Vishera is long term investment. Most games, still like 4 cores. When they become heavier in loading more cores, the Vishera will show its true potential.
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Pretty awesome? I love my vish far more then any of my intels?

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Just say YES will ya?

Truth though, you will likely miss the snappiness of the Vish when compared to Intels. Programs start quicker, Windows load faster....etc.

I am stunned.

What did I miss out? I've never used Intel, not biased I just like red biggrin.gif, but my understanding was/is that Intel is mostly faster. Sure it depends on the program's you use. But as far as I know Intels are more powerful per core.
What's going on here?

By all means, I am very happy with my fx-8320. Very decent performance for it's price. Currently buzzing away at 4.8ghz while staying at a cool ~55c max on the cores under IBT.
    
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I am stunned.

What did I miss out? I've never used Intel, not biased I just like red biggrin.gif, but my understanding was/is that Intel is mostly faster. Sure it depends on the program's you use. But as far as I know Intels are more powerful per core.
What's going on here?

By all means, I am very happy with my fx-8320. Very decent performance for it's price. Currently buzzing away at 4.8ghz while staying at a cool ~55c max on the cores under IBT.

Let me put it this way,

AMD FX - Loads to Windows Faster, Programs run right after you double click and stuff.

My Intel 6-core - has a longer boot time, takes more than a couple seconds of loading after executing a program.

Those are more noticeable than in-app performance where the FX may lag an Intel.

IIRC, Intel guys are talking about more than 20 seconds of boot time to be in Windows being fast. I can be in Windows in way less than 20 seconds to be in the log-on screen on the FX.
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I am stunned.

What did I miss out? I've never used Intel, not biased I just like red biggrin.gif, but my understanding was/is that Intel is mostly faster. Sure it depends on the program's you use. But as far as I know Intels are more powerful per core.
What's going on here?

By all means, I am very happy with my fx-8320. Very decent performance for it's price. Currently buzzing away at 4.8ghz while staying at a cool ~55c max on the cores under IBT.

Consider it like this. Take a Honda civic and a Ferrari. Inside a city, there is 50 kmh speed limit. So how is the Ferrari supposed to show it's faster? Most of ordinary desktop applications, don't arrive to load 100% a single AMD core. So even if Intel is 50% faster in IPC, it's something that doesn't really count. As a matter of fact, with Cool N Quiet enabled and with K10Stat set in very aggressive settings, i can't tell the difference between Athlon 640 and the FX8320. Because for most ordinary things, you don't get to hit the ceiling of a core. The difference you see it in other applications, like zipping/unzipping (multithreaded), videoencoding (huge difference), encryption software. But otherwise, i don't see difference. I could feel difference between Athlon 640 and FX8320, when the Athlon is without K10Stat. The default CnQ in AM3 feels more "slow", because the timings aren't so tight and the lowest clock is 800Mhz vs 1400Mhz. With K10Stat, you set 100ms to change P-State and the Athlon gets just as snappy.

To see difference with an Intel, you must run application that saturated an AMD core and that is poorly multithreaded (roughly, you need 2 AMD cores for 1 Intel). I see it like this: Intel is a sports car. An 8 Vishera is a power truck.
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Let me put it this way,

AMD FX - Loads to Windows Faster, Programs run right after you double click and stuff.

My Intel 6-core - has a longer boot time, takes more than a couple seconds of loading after executing a program.

Those are more noticeable than in-app performance where the FX may lag an Intel.

IIRC, Intel guys are talking about more than 20 seconds of boot time to be in Windows being fast. I can be in Windows in way less than 20 seconds to be in the log-on screen on the FX.

That's very interesting... I have no Intels and the best Intels i 've seen, were i3s and i wasn't at all impressed. I mean, the general responsiveness was i think worse than my Athlon 640 with K10Stat. I don't remember the i3 models and i can't really be 100% certain, because people put much junk on their startup, but my Athlon system is more responsive. Of course, this was in 2 colleagues' PCs , that i saw for brief time and none of them are really PC experts. I would have liked to see an i5 too, but people here are stingy with computers, it's a low priority purchase, they don't just upgrade when something is still doing its job...So most of people i know, either run i3s or PentiumG (these are the "more advanced") or older (going back to Pentium IV). But i wasn't at all impressed by the i3s. But again, it's hard to tell, because i keep my PC lean and mean, while most people love to load everything and the kitchen sink in the background.

One thing i can say about the Vishera. For desktop operations, i don't think you can get faster than that. I mean, things open instantly, even my SATAIII slowish HDD, is instant in opening folders.
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