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No air conditioning? Bummer. Even a window unit works wonders and is way cheaper than water cooling. I ran 4.92-4.96 all summer on air.

Cheaper to buy. Expensive to run.
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Hmm interesting. How you test stability of TRFC? Just IBT or prime like regular?

Same Memory tests.

HCI Memtest.
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I've not experienced that myself.

But on the other hand. 4.7ghz with 1.428v? How's that stable. Mine needs 1.46v. And its under water.



And no.. I'm not using AI suite for anything other than setting up a fan profile..
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Nice one there.
Looks like I will just keep my current setting, 1T can feel pretty snappy indeed.

Which ram clocks are you running btw?
Did you change nothing else besides the command rate? Like any voltages or something?

All timings are the default SPD timings. The classic 9-9-9-24-41 for 1600Mhz module. This kit was weird since the beginning, because it's 1.5v kit, but it's unstable at 1.5v. It's stable at 1.575v, but i give it 1.6v just in case. And it seems that at 1.6v, it can handle 1T.

For me, the difference in Skyrim is more than obvious. When i was turning quickly around ("crazy ivan turns"), not always, but usually in areas with heavy textures, i was getting a 1 sec stutter (fps drop and up again). Now it's gone 99% of time and my fps is more steady in all other occasions too. It was obvious that my VRAM wasn't enough and the game was using the system RAM for texture buffer, but the RAM couldn't catch up and i was getting the stutter. With 1T it's healed. I did many experiments to make sure it isn't placebo and it's not! I can even do crazy Ivan turns inside Whiterun and i don't stutter anymore! My jaw dropped.

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How did you test it to say it was stable?
You must be lucky or buy proper ram to run at 1T, at least with decent timings.

In total, since yesterday, i 've passed: IBT AVX Maximum, Memtest for Windows, Windows Memory Diagnostic tool and 8h Prime95 Blend. The RAM is just Corsair XMS3 with mundane timings and was actually unstable at 1.5v. But it seems to like 1.6v a lot!
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No air conditioning? Bummer. Even a window unit works wonders and is way cheaper than water cooling. I ran 4.92-4.96 all summer on air.

Cheaper to buy. Expensive to run.

^ True that, I don't have A/C either.....with my H100i i had to drop to 4.6Ghz in summer, under a custom loop i don't need to downclock but i do need to ramp the fans up which makes it kind of noisy.......

But i could see a D15 keeping a 4.6Ghz overclock going well even in an Aussie summer smile.gif
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I've not experienced that myself.

But on the other hand. 4.7ghz with 1.428v? How's that stable. Mine needs 1.46v. And its under water.



And no.. I'm not using AI suite for anything other than setting up a fan profile..

Nice voltage thumb.gif

alot of the newer chips can do 5.0 on voltages that the older ones needed for 4.6 tongue.gif
 
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It's actually stable at @4.8ghz and 1.428v (load), but this is by far the hottest chip I've ever encountered so I keep it at 4.7ghz.
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And no.. I'm not using AI suite for anything other than setting up a fan profile..

Nice on there. I need to stop asking...
Makes me hate my chip more and more. biggrin.gif But 4.8 is a decent clock IMO, shouldn't complain really.

Mine is a lot cooler though, even with the high voltage.


What are your LLC, ram, cpu-nb and ht settings btw?
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All timings are the default SPD timings. The classic 9-9-9-24-41 for 1600Mhz module. This kit was weird since the beginning, because it's 1.5v kit, but it's unstable at 1.5v. It's stable at 1.575v, but i give it 1.6v just in case. And it seems that at 1.6v, it can handle 1T.

For me, the difference in Skyrim is more than obvious. When i was turning quickly around ("crazy ivan turns"), not always, but usually in areas with heavy textures, i was getting a 1 sec stutter (fps drop and up again). Now it's gone 99% of time and my fps is more steady in all other occasions too. It was obvious that my VRAM wasn't enough and the game was using the system RAM for texture buffer, but the RAM couldn't catch up and i was getting the stutter. With 1T it's healed. I did many experiments to make sure it isn't placebo and it's not! I can even do crazy Ivan turns inside Whiterun and i don't stutter anymore! My jaw dropped.
In total, since yesterday, i 've passed: IBT AVX Maximum, Memtest for Windows, Windows Memory Diagnostic tool and 8h Prime95 Blend. The RAM is just Corsair XMS3 with mundane timings and was actually unstable at 1.5v. But it seems to like 1.6v a lot!

Ah. So you actually overvolted it. Explains it.
Good to hear you experience such a boost from such a simple thing though.
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^ True that, I don't have A/C either.....with my H100i i had to drop to 4.6Ghz in summer, under a custom loop i don't need to downclock but i do need to ramp the fans up which makes it kind of noisy.......

But i could see a D15 keeping a 4.6Ghz overclock going well even in an Aussie summer smile.gif
Nice voltage thumb.gif

alot of the newer chips can do 5.0 on voltages that the older ones needed for 4.6 tongue.gif

That should be it, I guess.
Mine is like 2.5 years old or something.
    
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Ah. So you actually overvolted it. Explains it.
Good to hear you experience such a boost from such a simple thing though.

Yeah. I only have 1GB VRAM, which i thought would be more than enough, but it shows that i haven't been paying attention to games, so Skyrim in GPU-Z is hitting the ceiling all the time. I have 4+GB system RAM for video (so says Windows), but apparently, the RAM at 2T was lagging behind the needs of the GPU in rendering new textures, while at 1T, it doesn't... Believe me, i am more amazed than you are, because i never thought that 1T would make much of a difference. In video encoding, it has zero impact, so i just had it to 2T, to be sure it's stable. But it seems in Skyrim it makes a lot of difference.
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What are your LLC, ram, cpu-nb and ht settings btw?

LLC = Ultra high
Cpu-nb =1.175v Northbridge is 2.35Ghz
Ht is currently at 2778Mhz (fsb 213 at the moment)
My ram is a mess as I'm still playing with a set of sticks of Kingston hyperX 1600mhz. Got them up to 1997mhz with janky timings
11-11-11-28

I wish I could push the chip alot further, but I'm basically thermal limited.
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At 1.75 CPU-NB, you will really be limited by heat. devil.gif
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At 1.75 CPU-NB, you will really be limited by heat. devil.gif

I was reading that.....hoping it's a typo wth.gif
 
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