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Yeah, we're talking a 120mm rad trying to cool a Vish 8 Core at 4.9/5GHz. It's not even a thicker 120mm but a normal/thin 27-30mm Aluminum rad with a weaker pump in AiO.

IMO in this situation the VRM being cool is not as important if the CPU can't be cooled accordingly. I would say 240mm AiO min for a 4.8-5GHz OC and even then it could be hard. My H100i + CHVFZ, Socket Fan, 3x VRM fans (total 15 fans) barely cut it for 5GHz for me. Hence I'm going custom loop now.

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I will run prime and some other stability tests. Still very early days and for now basic stuff and a little gaming seems to be a half decent indication of whether im on the right track or not.

Side note... I just dropped vcore from 1.56v down to 1.528 and increased cpu northbridge a little and it seems to be running ok whereas before with 1.52v on vcore it froze booting windows.. Perhaps i can lower these high vcore voltages by tweaking up northbridge?
you won't know that until you do proper stress tests...if you are hammering it with vcore and it's still not passing stress tests upping the cpu nb voltage can help stabilize but not necessarily at lower voltage...if you aren't stress testing it properly you will likely run into issues later...for a baseline 10 to 20 runs on ibt very high or max and an hour or so on prime blend gives you and idea how close you are to being stable...if you're freezing on gta v chances are good you will need a but more vcore and possibly more cpu nb voltage but again stress test will let you know...ibt on very high you want results of 3.88 on max 3.0 results...anything else is going to fail pretty soon...I use ibt for baseline voltage then prime blend for a bit...then once I'm pretty sure it's right 40 runs of ibt very high and 12 hours prime...I watch prime after a few hours then sleep while it runs
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you won't know that until you do proper stress tests...if you are hammering it with vcore and it's still not passing stress tests upping the cpu nb voltage can help stabilize but not necessarily at lower voltage...if you aren't stress testing it properly you will likely run into issues later...for a baseline 10 to 20 runs on ibt very high or max and an hour or so on prime blend gives you and idea how close you are to being stable

That is going to be an awful long progress that way.

IMO just run smallFFTs for 10 minutes and/or a few runs of IBT very high (or ~80% of ram). Then up clock and repeat.
If you think it is okay, do the test like you mentioned.
    
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I will run prime and some other stability tests. Still very early days and for now basic stuff and a little gaming seems to be a half decent indication of whether im on the right track or not.

Side note... I just dropped vcore from 1.56v down to 1.528 and increased cpu northbridge a little and it seems to be running ok whereas before with 1.52v on vcore it froze booting windows.. Perhaps i can lower these high vcore voltages by tweaking up northbridge?

Edit: ok definately seems like raising nb voltage allows me to lower vcore. I just fired up gta v at 4.9ghz and 1.53v ehich i was not able to do with default nb voltage.

You aren't stable. Please listen to us, reset everything to stock and overclock from scratch, download IBT AVX and HWinfo 64 and do some proper testing. We don't even know if you're using FSB or multi to overclock, if you're uing FSB then you really need to use IBT AVX and other stress testing programs while keeping an eye on your temps. Socket should stay under 70c and the cooler you keep your CPU (ideal temps is under 62c) the more stable it will be.

RUNNING A GAME IS NOT A STABILITY TEST
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That is going to be an awful long progress that way.

IMO just run smallFFTs for 10 minutes and/or a few runs of IBT very high (or ~80% of ram). Then up clock and repeat.
If you think it is okay, do the test like you mentioned.

It is a long process, but once it's done you can bet your house the CPU is going to be stable for any type of use. I use that method he listed Chopper and I was pretty damn stable... well until I foolishly changed things in bios. biggrin.gif
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My steps is Prime 10-20 minutes and/or IBT AVX VH 10-20. If it passes I IP my IC a multiplier and test again. I do this until I'm unstable. Then increase voltage in increments til I'm stable. I do this until I hit a point where no voltage til a safe point can keep stable and go back to my last stable OC speed and do longer tests. The defacto suite for me is 50 Runs IBT Max, Prime Blend/sFFT 12 hours, OCCT 12 hours, AIDA64 12 hours, then several hours of gaming in various games I have installed.

IMO before any OCing I make sure my RAM has no errors or issues with 12+ hours of memtest86(+) and 8-12 hours of HCI Memtest (recommend doing these tests again after finding your final OC).

.edit.

Also I noticed you have all your dimm slot occupied. Just saying it could limit tour OC a little, at least RAM/CPUNB wise.
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4x8gb of kingston hyper x savage at 2133mhz/1.62ish volts.

Temps stay well below 60/70c for cpu. Tmpin1 stays below 60c 99% of the time. All other temps such as package temp, tmpin2 etc are at like 45c or usually much lower.

I know its not very stable just because its able to run gta v. Im slowly working my through a 4.9ghz setup, as a noob, and while trying to keep vcore under 1.55v. Rome wasnt built in a day lol

Also im at 4.9ghz via the multiplier. Havent been able to change FSB for some reason. At some point i do want to lower the multiplier and raise FSB so i can pick up on the benefits of higher bus/ram/etc speeds. Im also running my powercolor r9 390 at +10% clock speed and +20% power limit fwiw. Its beasting graphics wise in gta v.
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My steps is Prime 10-20 minutes and/or IBT AVX VH 10-20. If it passes I IP my IC a multiplier and test again. I do this until I'm unstable. Then increase voltage in increments til I'm stable. I do this until I hit a point where no voltage til a safe point can keep stable and go back to my last stable OC speed and do longer tests. The defacto suite for me is 50 Runs IBT Max, Prime Blend/sFFT 12 hours, OCCT 12 hours, AIDA64 12 hours, then several hours of gaming in various games I have installed.

IMO before any OCing I make sure my RAM has no errors or issues with 12+ hours of memtest86(+) and 8-12 hours of HCI Memtest (recommend doing these tests again after finding your final OC).

.edit.

Also I noticed you have all your dimm slot occupied. Just saying it could limit tour OC a little, at least RAM/CPUNB wise.

See I have all my DIMM slots full and its only recent that you guys have spoken about that causing limits in OC, why you no tell me! I'm not sure which RAM I have is better, either my Corsair or my GSKILL Ripjaws.
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4x8gb of kingston hyper x savage at 2133mhz/1.62ish volts.

Temps stay well below 60/70c for cpu. Tmpin1 stays below 60c 99% of the time. All other temps such as package temp, tmpin2 etc are at like 45c or usually much lower.

I know its not very stable just because its able to run gta v. Im slowly working my through a 4.9ghz setup, as a noob, and while trying to keep vcore under 1.55v. Rome wasnt built in a day lol

Also im at 4.9ghz via the multiplier. Havent been able to change FSB for some reason. At some point i do want to lower the multiplier and raise FSB so i can pick up on the benefits of higher bus/ram/etc speeds. Im also running my powercolor r9 390 at +10% clock speed and +20% power limit fwiw. Its beasting graphics wise in gta v.

If you're overclocking to get the most out of your chip but are not giving it enough volts then you'll be limiting it's performance I hope you're not using AI suite to monitor temps too because that thing flat out lies.
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Cpuid hw monitor for temps. Or could run corsair link but cpuid shows me more info.

Im trying to get a nice balance at 4.9ghz without passing 1.55v vcore on this mobo.
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