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Anything other than normal operation is instability..

Got ibt avx, its freezing after 5-10 secs starting the test on standard. I have pulled 2 ram cards and dropped down to 16gb from 32. Still with vcore at 1.545-1.552v ish. Tried cpu nb auto and put a little more voltage into it, ditto with ram, started 1.6v and up to 1.64v but no real change.

Dont want to push past 1.55v ideally as reading up on this msi 970 gaming has me reluctant to put much more vcore into it so i may drop down to 4.8ghz if i cant stabilise by like 1.56v vcore. Tbh its become more of a want to finish what i started thing with this 4.9ghz profile. If i managed to get it next attempt id still drop back and make a profile at 4.7 or 4.8 thwts a little less agressive.

Edit: no dice at 1.56v vcore and up to 1.44v cpu northbridge. Still freezing after like 5-10 secs of ibt avx so im dropping to 4.8ghz.
Edited by dmcl325i - 10/11/15 at 4:32am
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Anything other than normal operation is instability..

Got ibt avx, its freezing after 5-10 secs starting the test on standard. I have pulled 2 ram cards and dropped down to 16gb from 32. Still with vcore at 1.545-1.552v ish. Tried cpu nb auto and put a little more voltage into it, ditto with ram, started 1.6v and up to 1.64v but no real change.

Dont want to push past 1.55v ideally as reading up on this msi 970 gaming has me reluctant to put much more vcore into it so i may drop down to 4.8ghz if i cant stabilise by like 1.56v vcore. Tbh its become more of a want to finish what i started thing with this 4.9ghz profile. If i managed to get it next attempt id still drop back and make a profile at 4.7 or 4.8 thwts a little less agressive.

Edit: no dice at 1.56v vcore and up to 1.44v cpu northbridge. Still freezing after like 5-10 secs of ibt avx so im dropping to 4.8ghz.
Edited by dmcl325i - Today at 4:32 am

IBT AVX Standard is a joke. You need to pass at least Very High. On standard it tests very little RAM and the stress on the IMC is minimal.
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Managed 1 pass on idt avx at 4.8ghz. Package temp and tmpin1 did rise but not too bad. Will run it more times and see what temps do. Have all fans running 100%.



what sort of upper limit for package temp and tmpin1 should i be watching out for? appears stable-ish according to ibt avx but only run 3 passes.
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IBT AVX Standard is a joke. You need to pass at least Very High. On standard it tests very little RAM and the stress on the IMC is minimal.

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Managed 1 pass on idt avx at 4.8ghz. Package temp and tmpin1 did rise but not too bad. Will run it more times and see what temps do. Have all fans running 100%.



what sort of upper limit for package temp and tmpin1 should i be watching out for? appears stable-ish according to ibt avx but only run 3 passes.

Now your starting to get in another ballpark.
These chips like cold. The colder you can keep it, the less voltage it will need to be stable.

But as your aren't even close to stable with 4.8ghz you need to back it off a decent amount and start low, working your way up.
1 pass is nothing btw.

  • I would start at stock clocks, set vcore on auto and reboot.
  • Go back into bios to see what your board sets the vcore at default. Set that voltage manual.
  • Then start to increase the multi 1 step at a time and run IBT on VERY HIGH.
  • Then when you pass, increase. Until you fail, crash, whatever.
  • Then increase voltage and repeat.
    
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Ran it on maximum to try for 1 pass. Must have been going a good minute or more then eventually froze.

Temps all stabilised at reasonable amounts but tmpin1 hit 81c before it froze. Everything esle rose a bit then settled at ok temps. Tmpin1 is northbridge is it? Might play around with the fan setup on the heatsinks.
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Ran it on maximum to try for 1 pass. Must have been going a good minute or more then eventually froze.

Temps all stabilised at reasonable amounts but tmpin1 hit 81c before it froze. Everything esle rose a bit then settled at ok temps. Tmpin1 is northbridge is it? Might play around with the fan setup on the heatsinks.

Sadly no, tmpin1 is socket.

You are really exceeding your max here. The temp WILL raise more when you run IBT for longer. Follow my above advice.
if it was the northbridge though, I'd be even more worried. biggrin.gif

Ideally you want:
socket(tmpin1) max 72c
cores(package) max 62c, but these are okay untill 70 also.

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Ran it on maximum to try for 1 pass. Must have been going a good minute or more then eventually froze.

I told you so... IBT AVX standard is usually unstable, because it doesn't stress the IMC of the CPU. It is usually 2 or 3 voltage notches (in BIOS) less than it should be for that clock. Basically, usually you need 2 or 3 notches up to pass IBT on Very High or Maximum.
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Sadly no, tmpin1 is socket.

You are really exceeding your max here. The temp WILL raise more when you run IBT for longer. Follow my above advice.
if it was the northbridge though, I'd be even more worried. biggrin.gif

Ideally you want:
socket(tmpin1) max 72c
cores(package) max 62c, but these are okay untill 70 also.

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Package temp was sub 50c, tmpin0 was 36c and tmpin2 was similarly low. Only tmpin1 kept creeping up. At 1.55 vcore here so if it A doesnt stabilise with 1.55v vcore or tmpin1 cant be kept below what? Like 60 or 70c? Then i will fall back and try 4.7ghz etc etc. Ibt avx is def more demanding than gta though so i could probably run gta at 4.8 all day.
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Package temp was sub 50c, tmpin0 was 36c and tmpin2 was similarly low. Only tmpin1 kept creeping up. At 1.55 vcore here so if it A doesnt stabilise with 1.55v vcore or tmpin1 cant be kept below what? Like 60 or 70c? Then i will fall back and try 4.7ghz etc etc. Ibt avx is def more demanding than gta though so i could probably run gta at 4.8 all day.

Yeah temp 0 and 2 are northbridge and system temp IIRC.
To lower the socket temp (temp1) you want to add airflow over the back of the socket.

You can run it all day if you want a highly unstable overclock.
I think you will even have to lower it to 4.6 at least.

Why don't you just follow the advice here and take it step by step, starting low?
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I have some lesser WIP profiles but it seems im not too terribly far off a 4.8ghz profile if i can get a handle on tmpin1.

Think its easier for me to work backwards from here than forwards from stock or the default OC of 4.2ghz. I kind of got a little system going in my head. Bios, windows, gta, ibt avx.

I will also try working up from stock or default OC freq but i THINK working backcfrom where im at is quicker for me.
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