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Stress testing is usually, Prime, IBT AVX, or Aida, you usually start at a low clock , testing as you go.

You don't have to do this but if you don't then you can't claim your overclock is stable.

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Doing GREAT, well till win10 came my way.
Having to slightly return the OC due to this. (not that it's a bad thing) biggrin.gif

Thought I'd better point that fact out about the non AVX as we all know how the true AVX adds even more stress/temps etc than standard version.
If he thought he was having issues with heat before...

Didn't realize he was on an H-55 either, 4.5 ghz 1.45 volts would be about the limit for real stressing I'd think.
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XKrNMBoYx
I was waiting for these pics haha

If you've got it flaunt it, if you haven't got it flaunt it anyway, someone may not think you are an idiot!

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Doing GREAT, well till win10 came my way.
Having to slightly re-tune the OC due to this. (not that it's a bad thing) biggrin.gif

Thought I'd better point that fact out about the non AVX as we all know how the true AVX adds even more stress/temps etc than standard version.
If he thought he was having issues with heat before...

Ha ha

True. I kinda was happy he actually went to stress testing instead of the GTA-runs stability check.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike The Owl View Post

Stress testing is usually, Prime, IBT AVX, or Aida, you usually start at a low clock , testing as you go.

You don't have to do this but if you don't then you can't claim your overclock is stable.

( I hate IPad keyboards !)

Its not even about claiming.
If you just set something and go and then run into trouble you won't have a clue to what the cause is. All variables are there together at once then.
While if you go step by step you can (somewhat) narrow it down.
Quote:
Originally Posted by cssorkinman View Post

Didn't realize he was on an H-55 either, 4.5 ghz 1.45 volts would be about the limit for real stressing I'd think.

True.
People don't realize the amount of heat these chips put out.

If a h55 could keep the 83x0 at 4.9ghz, why on earth would we spend hundreds on custom loops.

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Originally Posted by Chopper1591 View Post

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Originally Posted by The Sandman View Post

Doing GREAT, well till win10 came my way.
Having to slightly re-tune the OC due to this. (not that it's a bad thing) biggrin.gif

Thought I'd better point that fact out about the non AVX as we all know how the true AVX adds even more stress/temps etc than standard version.
If he thought he was having issues with heat before...

Ha ha

True. I kinda was happy he actually went to stress testing instead of the GTA-runs stability check.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike The Owl View Post

Stress testing is usually, Prime, IBT AVX, or Aida, you usually start at a low clock , testing as you go.

You don't have to do this but if you don't then you can't claim your overclock is stable.

( I hate IPad keyboards !)

Its not even about claiming.
If you just set something and go and then run into trouble you won't have a clue to what the cause is. All variables are there together at once then.
While if you go step by step you can (somewhat) narrow it down.
Quote:
Originally Posted by cssorkinman View Post

Didn't realize he was on an H-55 either, 4.5 ghz 1.45 volts would be about the limit for real stressing I'd think.

True.
People don't realize the amount of heat these chips put out.

If a h55 could keep the 83x0 at 4.9ghz, why on earth would we spend hundreds on custom loops.

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The scary thing is that the MSI AM3+ boards I have will NOT throttle when you have active phase management turned off along with other power saving features. Which if you don't know what you are doing, is a good recipe for smoke. Not sure about this particular board, but it would appear it is similar.
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The scary thing is that the MSI AM3+ boards I have will NOT throttle when you have active phase management turned off along with other power saving features. Which if you don't know what you are doing, is a good recipe for smoke. Not sure about this particular board, but it would appear it is similar.

Yep, looks like it.

I didn't know that particular fact but I did tell him that he was going to damage stuff if he keeps going on the same foot.

Reminds me of my old Sempron 1600. Cooler died or something, didn't know it. Until there literally came smoke out of the case and the socket was fried. lachen.gif
    
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The scary thing is that the MSI AM3+ boards I have will NOT throttle when you have active phase management turned off along with other power saving features. Which if you don't know what you are doing, is a good recipe for smoke. Not sure about this particular board, but it would appear it is similar.

Yep, looks like it.

I didn't know that particular fact but I did tell him that he was going to damage stuff if he keeps going on the same foot.

Reminds me of my old Sempron 1600. Cooler died or something, didn't know it. Until there literally came smoke out of the case and the socket was fried. lachen.gif

I handed down a 965 be rig to my sister, she has 2 long haired cats in the house and leaves it on 24/7 - the cats cuddle up to it to keep warm. Inevitably the cpu hsf got caked with hair to the point that the fan died . She said I needed to look at it because it was acting "weird". I open the case and it looked like an obese mouse was sitting on the motherboard.... uugh. I pulled the HSF , and the chip - the socket actually had burnish marks around it with some darkening of the white plastic around the pins. I cleaned it up, put a new stock hsf on it and it has ran ever since ( 2 years now iirc. I believe the board is an MSI DKA 790 GX - mem is a little foggy after so many builds..lol.
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The motherboard you have will probably not get past 4.6 ghz on IBT AVX , even with a very good supporting cast of quality psu and cooling. That said you can usually game etc at higher clocks than you can stress with these chips because not many games will fully load 8 cores, at least not for very long ( mostly just during load screens etc.).
Others have given some good advice, but it's up to you to follow it or not. Unless you have a spare motherboard, I'd keep clocks at 4.6 and the voltage below 1.5
Just a bit of information for you to consider, the difference in wattage between the stock VID and the 1.55 volts you are trying to push is at least 150 .

Thats what i was thinking.. I read a few things about stress testing vs real world usage and basically came to the conclusion you could eek out a higher OC for gaming and normal use than you could run for long periods in a stress test.

Regarding fan blowing on back of the board.. I keep asking because im unclear on what you guys are saying needs to have some air. That last post makes me think im basically wanting to hit the actual socket the cpu sits in. If thats the case id want something blowing down under tue cpu cooler between it and the mobo.
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I handed down a 965 be rig to my sister, she has 2 long haired cats in the house and leaves it on 24/7 - the cats cuddle up to it to keep warm. Inevitably the cpu hsf got caked with hair to the point that the fan died . She said I needed to look at it because it was acting "weird". I open the case and it looked like an obese mouse was sitting on the motherboard.... uugh. I pulled the HSF , and the chip - the socket actually had burnish marks around it with some darkening of the white plastic around the pins. I cleaned it up, put a new stock hsf on it and it has ran ever since ( 2 years now iirc. I believe the board is an MSI DKA 790 GX - mem is a little foggy after so many builds..lol.

Oh wow.
Made me lol so bad. Obese mouse. I am a picture thinker and I could literally see it. lachen.gif
Brother, it is acting weird. Can you please look at it? tongue.gif

But, man. Decent motherboard to survive such abuse and still run no problem.
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Thats what i was thinking.. I read a few things about stress testing vs real world usage and basically came to the conclusion you could eek out a higher OC for gaming and normal use than you could run for long periods in a stress test.

Regarding fan blowing on back of the board.. I keep asking because im unclear on what you guys are saying needs to have some air. That last post makes me think im basically wanting to hit the actual socket the cpu sits in. If thats the case id want something blowing down under tue cpu cooler between it and the mobo.

Look. You have the motherboard where the socket is placed on (the socket is where the cpu is placed into). Then on the rear of the board you have the backplate, probably changed to hold the cooler you use. You are supposed to put some (or a lot) airflow over that area to lower the socket temp, and will also cool the vrm a bit.

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To make that work you might have to mod you side panel to be able to mount an fan that blows over the rear of the socket. That is case dependent, and we don't know (at least I don't) which case you use. That's why I posted pictures of my mod of the side panel.

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