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There you got it mate. If you need further test then, it would be removing the GPU OC. Or even the GPUs them selves and try. thumb.gif
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There you got it mate. If you need further test then, it would be removing the GPU OC. Or even the GPUs them selves and try. thumb.gif

GPU's are never overclocked outside of benchmarks and this was running IBT (doesn't utilise GPU's) but i do get what you are saying and I'll run some tests with and without certain GPU's in there and see what happens, I've still got my trusty Silverstone as a backup if it's pear shaped (going to need a beefy PSU shortly wink.gif )
 
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GPU's are never overclocked outside of benchmarks and this was running IBT (doesn't utilise GPU's) but i do get what you are saying and I'll run some tests with and without certain GPU's in there and see what happens, I've still got my trusty Silverstone as a backup if it's pear shaped (going to need a beefy PSU shortly wink.gif )

Or try to replicate the issue. smile.gif
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GPU's are never overclocked outside of benchmarks and this was running IBT (doesn't utilise GPU's) but i do get what you are saying and I'll run some tests with and without certain GPU's in there and see what happens, I've still got my trusty Silverstone as a backup if it's pear shaped (going to need a beefy PSU shortly wink.gif )

Or try to replicate the issue. smile.gif

or that yeah tongue.gif
 
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Haha! NICE!!!!



Ah cool.
You actually did watercool the Kitty? I am struggling with the idea for some time now, you think it is worth it?
How are the vrm temps now? Most notable plus is going to be clean looking'ness. I just hate the Noctua ruining the look of my build.



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Im not as think as you confuse i am tongue.gif

I just wasnt sure where people were talking about tmpin1 being at. Now i know the location i need to cool i will cool it lol

You can see though all my other temps are pretty good so that little weeny h55 is doing the trick with the sp120's on it. I just need to figure a way to cool the actual socket/mobo around or behind it. I think a fan of some sort on the back will do the job. The 140mm fan i stuck on there sucks for that, it doesnt flow well being so close to the mobo, it must be designed for unrestricted flow. I might re-run same test with one of the boggo corsair 120mm case fans in its place tomorrow and see if it improves.

I may be back up to 4.8ghz yet.. Although i think i have more or less proved my point on the single slot weeny little h55 cooler in an sp120 sandwich. Theres even a little air leakage between the front pusher and the rad, might make up a little gasket or something so its forcing all the air through the rad with no leaking around the edges.

Hmm. You should almost go promoting hardware, I think many people will buy it. tongue.gif

Stop putting mediocre stress on the chip and say its stable.
Low end AIO with "okay" fans isn't gonna cut it.

About the gasket, they are being sold. I've had them. Here's a link
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/18046/ex-rad-469/Phobya_120mm_Radiator_Gasket_-_10mm_38335.html?tl=g30c637s162
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I don't know what's harder to get a hold of.

1. IBT AVX at the first page.
2. Very High - not HIGH
3. Your claimed temps are the minimums.
4. Stop talking like you are stable. You are not. You wanna prove it? RUN Prime Blend for even 2 Hours and/or IBT AVX as mentioned, 50 Passes.

People have been so kind to point you in the right direction and you keep ignoring that fact and injecting your point. It's really pointless for people that have been doing this longer than you have your system.

Lastly, SP120s suck. tongue.gif

I'm really amazed how many people got involved in this since the last few days. I somewhat started with my KIND advice. But now I'm really done with it.
If OP decides to actually do the proper tests and encounters problems (which he WILL), I won't laugh and will also be happy to help. No problem.

That's what makes OCN special IMO. the knowledge.
You are very correct BTW.

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So you say 50 passes, others say 10 or 20.. Im not going to deliberately run the system in to the ground because one person wants to see this stress test and someone else wants to see that, etc.

Apart from needing to sort out something more permanent for the rear of the mobo. All other temps were fine as said i dont know how many times previously.... You can clearly see min and max temps. With the exception of tmpin1 which is socket temp, everything look fine. And that is socket temp and not cpu temp... Cpu temp sits around or below 40c.. And thats not minimum, minimum at idle is in the mid 20's usually for cpu.

Currently eyeing up server fans and projector fans. Not looking for gimmicky junk for cooling socket and possibly nb/vrm sinks if i change from the current little fan covering the two heatsinks. Im looking at fans ideally pulling in excess of 1-2a that i will need to power via ide or sata plugs from the psu. Dont intend to fart about with cooling for socket/nb/vrm areas.

Okay facts. The temps are low because you don't stress hard. The idle is to be ignored anyway, because it is way off. It's not even close to being accurate. But that's no problem, load temps are what matters anyway. Socket and package are BOTH cpu related temps. It can be confusing I know. Cpu cooler also has an effect on the socket temp.

I told you a few days ago to do prime95 smallFFTs for like 10 minutes and/or IBT (avx) very high for 10-20 runs. That is during the process of upping your overclock. To test for actual long term stability one can even run IBT for like 500 runs. If the system is stable it won't kill it. But not testing at all will ruin thing in the long run.
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Oh boy! This is fun to read but I bet it will be gone from existence soon.

I forgot to do some overclocking this weekend tbh I haven't used my PC since last week. Things in my flat still don't have homes and I collapsed the other day due to doing too much. Meh need to get my student finance sorted and get that i5 rig and do some apples to apples. thumb.gif

As to our new friend, Get IBT AVX and do some proper testing, I know you think a lot of what we are saying is nonsense but it really isn't and no amount of imagination and misreading temps etc will escape the stone cold facts that you aren't stable, you aren't testing correctly and you're pumping too much heat into that tiny rad which once you start actually doing some real stress testing, you will understand.

I'm finishing with this post Benjiw.

I can quote the whole conversation going on between the new guy and the old gang but it is pointless as it is.
It's all been said.

Agree:
Then 120 rad is NOT going to cut it. Well. 4.5-4.6 max, yeah sure. More? Nope
Even my old h100 which performs at least 1.5 times as good as his h55 struggled to keep my chip cool at 4.8. Enough said.
    
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or that yeah tongue.gif

No, dont do it. I didn't say Furmark + IBT. tongue.gif


@Chopper, Prime Small FFT is nothing but a cooling test that it pushes only the cores. Very Low RAM Usage, Very Low Cache stress.

In fact, even AIDA Cache Only or Memory Only stress is quicker than Small FFT. thumb.gif

Blend and IBT AVX are roughly the same in what they do.

Come to think of it, maybe we can widen the standards of stability that we usually recommend. tongue.gif so some people can claim they are at least stable with XXXX Stress test.

1. AIDA64 - How many Hours?
2. X264 Encoding - How many loops?
3. Realbench - How many Hours?
4. X265 Overkill - How many instances/back to back runs?
5. IBT AVX Very High- how many runs?
6. Prime Small FFT - How many Hours?
7. Prime Blend - How Many Hours?
8. OCCT with AVX - How many hours?
9. Cinebench! - meh!
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No, dont do it. I didn't say Furmark + IBT. tongue.gif


@Chopper, Prime Small FFT is nothing but a cooling test that it pushes only the cores. Very Low RAM Usage, Very Low Cache stress.

In fact, even AIDA Cache Only or Memory Only stress is quicker than Small FFT. thumb.gif

Blend and IBT AVX are roughly the same in what they do.

Come to think of it, maybe we can widen the standards of stability that we usually recommend. tongue.gif so some people can claim they are at least stable with XXXX Stress test.

1. AIDA64 - How many Hours?
2. X264 Encoding - How many loops?
3. Realbench - How many Hours?
4. X265 Overkill - How many instances/back to back runs?
5. IBT AVX Very High- how many runs?
6. Prime Small FFT - How many Hours?
7. Prime Blend - How Many Hours?
8. OCCT with AVX - How many hours?
9. Cinebench! - meh!

I like the idea.

And I know it hardly uses ram at all (smallFFTs) but IMO it is better to use that working your overclock up then checking if GTA V loads. biggrin.gif
    
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Ok... Downloaded IBT AVX from 1st page. Swapped the rubbish 140mm fan i had on the back of the socket/mobo for an 80mm cooler master fan i "borrowed" from the cpu cooler that will be going into my gf's rig. I ran 2 passes on the other IBT AVX which people were saying is the wrong one and temps for tmpin1 settled in the low to mid 60's compared to 70's previously.

Currently running the recommended IBT AVX from page 1 on very high and oddly tmpin1 is actually lower after 2 passes.. Also the passes are not taking as long on this version of IBT? Im on 3rd pass currently and tmpin1 is only just reaching 61c. Dropped back to 56c ish between passes... Now onto 4th pass. Cpu temp, package temp, etc are all looking the same as on the other IBT AVX i was using so i dont know what all the BS calls were all about? It seems like this recommended version of IBT AVX is easier on the cpu?

That said i just got a warning after 4th pass about stability. Seems i have temp of tmpin1 somewhat under control though. I backed off vcore and cpu nb voltage a little so i may tweak it up a little and re run this test on very hard to see if that cures the error.
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I like the idea.

And I know it hardly uses ram at all (smallFFTs) but IMO it is better to use that working your overclock up then checking if GTA V loads. biggrin.gif

Cinebench is Better! tongue.gif
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Ok... Downloaded IBT AVX from 1st page. Swapped the rubbish 140mm fan i had on the back of the socket/mobo for an 80mm cooler master fan i "borrowed" from the cpu cooler that will be going into my gf's rig. I ran 2 passes on the other IBT AVX which people were saying is the wrong one and temps for tmpin1 settled in the low to mid 60's compared to 70's previously.

Currently running the recommended IBT AVX from page 1 on very high and oddly tmpin1 is actually lower after 2 passes.. Also the passes are not taking as long on this version of IBT? Im on 3rd pass currently and tmpin1 is only just reaching 61c. Dropped back to 56c ish between passes... Now onto 4th pass. Cpu temp, package temp, etc are all looking the same as on the other IBT AVX i was using so i dont know what all the BS calls were all about? It seems like this recommended version of IBT AVX is easier on the cpu?

That said i just got a warning after 4th pass about stability. Seems i have temp of tmpin1 somewhat under control though. I backed off vcore and cpu nb voltage a little so i may tweak it up a little and re run this test on very hard to see if that cures the error.

Opps, is it because of the fan? confused.gif

Temps are low as you are at the start of the test. And I'm guessing, just guessing, NOT Very High. biggrin.gif
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ill just leave this here then..... biggrin.gif



little bump to vcore, cpu nb and ram voltage seems to have done the trick.
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