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At last, he spoke English!

1.55 for 4.7? My 8320 being a pig will not need it that high for 4.7.

And yes, before you wet yourself with excitement, 20 Passes bro. tongue.gif
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not wetting myself with anything lol

just proving my point on the fan sandwiched H55 CPU cooler. could honestly care less about extended duration bragging rights or 24/7 bragging rights. im not trying to kill it here just gain the assumption that it is reasonably stable.

wonder why im having to pump so much vcore into it? the mobo maybe?

ill run 20 passes at some stage today. gotta do a couple things now and i didnt want to be burning chips for cars while stress testing tongue.gif
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or that yeah tongue.gif

No, dont do it. I didn't say Furmark + IBT. tongue.gif

I went ahead and ran Furmark anyway for 30mins (all 3 GPU's) and nope.....no shutdown.

So i ran IBT + Furmark.....got about 6 passes into IBT and..........shutdown (funny it was on the 6th pass again)

so i let my PC sit for a while and booted back in, ran IBT Very High 10 Passes and shutdown again, ran Normal 10 passes no issues.

I'm currently running the x265 Benchmark in x8 4k overkill mode (12% through atm) and so far so good.......

This is a very curious problem I'm having here thinking.gif
 
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I didn't mention a name for a reason. But since you are butthurt, then maybe you feel like it's you.

But, to prove my point, maybe you can prove us wrong for saying IBT AVX and/or Prime for stability is a hoax. wink.gif Maybe posting a run of X265 encoding at 4K 8X Overkill?

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Thank god for that Hurricanes back! and I thought Mussi was taking the P*** out of me! devil.gif

P.s How do you shot 4K movies on your system, my mains lead isn't long enough on my rig to get it out of the office?

lol that was just bad English from me, what i obviously meant was that i shot 4K video on my phone and rendered it on my system thumb.gif
I don't have that long USB cable to get my cam outside, besides, its not 4K either and i don't think there are 4K webcams in the first place rolleyes.gif
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I didn't mention a name for a reason. But since you are butthurt, then maybe you feel like it's you.

But, to prove my point, maybe you can prove us wrong for saying IBT AVX and/or Prime for stability is a hoax. wink.gif Maybe posting a run of X265 encoding at 4K 8X Overkill?

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Thank god for that Hurricanes back! and I thought Mussi was taking the P*** out of me! devil.gif

P.s How do you shot 4K movies on your system, my mains lead isn't long enough on my rig to get it out of the office?

Well it fits the profile some people made would you agree?

I will explain for the last time what i think of IBT AVX, Prime95 etc. so that this is settled and never has to be discussed again.

In the beginning i was running Prime95 when i was new to overclocking. I run prime for over 1 hour and i assumed i was "stable" i started Crysis3 and after 30 minutes i crashed.. it was not my GPU or the driver that caused it because it ran perfectly before.

That was the reason i left Prime95 and started IBT AVX since i heard Prime95 is more for Intel CPU's and IBT AVX is better for AMD CPU's.
I started to run IBT AVX at high and i was "stable" for 10 runs and i thought i could render some clips since that is one of the most taxing thing to do for a CPU.
I rendered for 5 minutes and my PC completely froze and i had to push the reset button..
I went to the bios and lowered the Vcore and some other things and tried to render the same exact clips again and it did it in 15 minutes or so..

The point i try to make is that you simply loose stability the moment you start overclocking. There is no way to determine stability to run only one program for hours on end and taxing your system to the max with loads you don't see in every day usage. Temps are also higher than when i render clips in Adobe premiere pro. That shows me how unnecessary high IBT AVX the system stresses.
I don't say that IBT AVX is a bad program but it can do harm for people who don't know what they are doing and you can actually burn your VRM's or possibly other components.

I made a lot of mistakes in the beginning and i had much trouble to get its max OC and maintain stability in the same time. Many OS corruptions etc. etc.
It can be the cause of too low or too much voltage as you know. You just need to find the right mix of Ram speed, CPU speed and CPU/NB for your system and that can wildly vary since all of our systems are different and so is our cooling.

I don't need to run IBT AVX anymore because i know my chip very well now and i know when its unstable. It starts with loading times in windows and webpages that takes longer than before etc. etc.
How i know i am stable is that i tested it first with IBT AVX at high for 10 runs than played some intensive games like Crysis3, Farcry4, the last game really taxes the CPU good as i see that it uses 50 to 70% during the game.
Than i render some clips and later i export it and that really taxes your system to the max. RAM is at 80% or more and CPU is at 100% on all 8 cores for more than 30 minutes sometimes. So it really brings your system to its knees. I can barely surf the internet when i render some clips and exporting, its also not a smart thing to do i think.

As you can read though the thread you can see that i provided enough IBT AVX screens and i even send some screens when i was rendering my video not long ago.

So the term "gaming stable" and "hurricane stable" is way out of context and is a perfectly sum up from people who don't read the posts clearly and simply want to troll.
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not wetting myself with anything lol

just proving my point on the fan sandwiched H55 CPU cooler. could honestly care less about extended duration bragging rights or 24/7 bragging rights. im not trying to kill it here just gain the assumption that it is reasonably stable.

wonder why im having to pump so much vcore into it? the mobo maybe?

ill run 20 passes at some stage today. gotta do a couple things now and i didnt want to be burning chips for cars while stress testing tongue.gif

Good that you finally were able to speak our language. biggrin.gif

Regarding your VCore requirement and mobo VCore delivery, the former will probably take more to justify. But the latter can be observed thru this,

Download HWInfo64 and install. This have been the go to monitoring for me except Aida64. There are numerous values monitored by the app but you should just be looking at the VCore.

Double-click that item so you can observe in a graphical way, the response of the Voltage to Load. Run IBT like we say, and continue to monitor the graph. Post it here so we can take a look. thumb.gif

Ideally, you'd want a clean graph, no high spikes and low lumps from the mean value.

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Originally Posted by Sgt Bilko View Post

I went ahead and ran Furmark anyway for 30mins (all 3 GPU's) and nope.....no shutdown.

So i ran IBT + Furmark.....got about 6 passes into IBT and..........shutdown (funny it was on the 6th pass again)

so i let my PC sit for a while and booted back in, ran IBT Very High 10 Passes and shutdown again, ran Normal 10 passes no issues.

I'm currently running the x265 Benchmark in x8 4k overkill mode (12% through atm) and so far so good.......

This is a very curious problem I'm having here thinking.gif

Were the clocks the same as when the chip was on the CHVFZ? And Voltages of course
Edited by mus1mus - 10/12/15 at 4:58am
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ill just leave this here then..... biggrin.gif



little bump to vcore, cpu nb and ram voltage seems to have done the trick.

Fair enough.
Can you monitor vrm temps though? I would personally not run such high voltage on that little board of yours.

But, so far you are getting somewhere.
Took you a while, but: better late then never.

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I went ahead and ran Furmark anyway for 30mins (all 3 GPU's) and nope.....no shutdown.

So i ran IBT + Furmark.....got about 6 passes into IBT and..........shutdown (funny it was on the 6th pass again)

so i let my PC sit for a while and booted back in, ran IBT Very High 10 Passes and shutdown again, ran Normal 10 passes no issues.

I'm currently running the x265 Benchmark in x8 4k overkill mode (12% through atm) and so far so good.......

This is a very curious problem I'm having here thinking.gif

Hmm.
I haven't followed the complete discussion, but how is your psu? Don't know if you have looked in that direction already.
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Good that you finally were able to speak our language. biggrin.gif

Regarding your VCore requirement and mobo VCore delivery, the former will probably take more to justify. But the latter can be observed thru this,

Download HWInfo64 and install. This have been the go to monitoring for me except Aida64. There are numerous values monitored by the app but you should just be looking at the VCore.

Double-click that item so you can observe in a graphical way, the response of the Voltage to Load. Run IBT like we say, and continue to monitor the graph. Post it here so we can take a look. thumb.gif

Ideally, you'd want a clean graph, no high spikes and low lumps from the mean value.

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I went ahead and ran Furmark anyway for 30mins (all 3 GPU's) and nope.....no shutdown.

So i ran IBT + Furmark.....got about 6 passes into IBT and..........shutdown (funny it was on the 6th pass again)

so i let my PC sit for a while and booted back in, ran IBT Very High 10 Passes and shutdown again, ran Normal 10 passes no issues.

I'm currently running the x265 Benchmark in x8 4k overkill mode (12% through atm) and so far so good.......

This is a very curious problem I'm having here thinking.gif

Were the clocks the same as when the chip was on the CHVFZ?

Yep, same clocks and it passed the 4k x8 overkill mode no issues.

I've stressed this chip and made sure it was stable when i put it on the Saberkitty though:



Only difference between then and now is I've re-installed Win 10 so maybe.....unlikely but still possible i guess.

I might re-download IBT tomorrow and give it a run and see what happens.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chopper1591 View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sgt Bilko View Post

I went ahead and ran Furmark anyway for 30mins (all 3 GPU's) and nope.....no shutdown.

So i ran IBT + Furmark.....got about 6 passes into IBT and..........shutdown (funny it was on the 6th pass again)

so i let my PC sit for a while and booted back in, ran IBT Very High 10 Passes and shutdown again, ran Normal 10 passes no issues.

I'm currently running the x265 Benchmark in x8 4k overkill mode (12% through atm) and so far so good.......

This is a very curious problem I'm having here thinking.gif

Hmm.
I haven't followed the complete discussion, but how is your psu? Don't know if you have looked in that direction already.

PSU is fine afaik but it is a possibility that I'm looking at smile.gif
 
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@chopper, it failed about 4 passes in on the 20 pass test. Seems an intermittent thing going on maybe as it did this before i upped vcore and cpu nb before passing 10 runs. Maybe a little more cpu nb voltage os needed?

Will download hwinfo64 and see what that shows. Vrm and nb sinks are bordering between cool and luke warm to touch though so definately no high temps on the sinks atleast..
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@chopper, it failed about 4 passes in on the 20 pass test. Seems an intermittent thing going on maybe as it did this before i upped vcore and cpu nb before passing 10 runs. Maybe a little more cpu nb voltage os needed?

Will download hwinfo64 and see what that shows. Vrm and nb sinks are bordering between cool and luke warm to touch though so definately no high temps on the sinks atleast..

i use Aida 64, it give me the tools to check all my temps, tells me what my ram is clocked at and allows me to stress test everything. I also use all the other stuff. I agree with Mussi about Cinebench. it doesn't stress enough for long enough and you can run it on an unstable overclock quite easily ( mind you it's fun trying to get your AMD score above the Intels!)

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@chopper, it failed about 4 passes in on the 20 pass test. Seems an intermittent thing going on maybe as it did this before i upped vcore and cpu nb before passing 10 runs. Maybe a little more cpu nb voltage os needed?

Will download hwinfo64 and see what that shows. Vrm and nb sinks are bordering between cool and luke warm to touch though so definately no high temps on the sinks atleast..

Hey, be careful. VRM temps should not be based by the heat the heatsinks produce or feels to the touch. Pretty sure my kitty shows 60C an monitoring apps but feel luke warm.

Do you overclock other parameters such as the CPU-NB and or the RAM?

Also note, Windows screws up IBT too.
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Yep, same clocks and it passed the 4k x8 overkill mode no issues.

I've stressed this chip and made sure it was stable when i put it on the Saberkitty though:



Only difference between then and now is I've re-installed Win 10 so maybe.....unlikely but still possible i guess.

I might re-download IBT tomorrow and give it a run and see what happens.
PSU is fine afaik but it is a possibility that I'm looking at smile.gif

Windows or BIOS can cause that I guess.

My OC is also scrutinized at the moment. 8370E + Kitty. Lost all my previous profiles due to Bios update.

And I am back to W7 for the Novice Shootout. biggrin.gif
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