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The main reason why I am against using Linpack as a stability test is following.
Linpack is a benchmark and not a stability test, eventhou it is extremely stressful.

It´s error checking is significantly worse (less frequent) than Prime95 and to get any realiable results at all you need to use problem sizes > 23168 (> 4GB).
Large problem sizes take extremely long to run and the errors are checked only once per trial. Prime95 meanwhile verifies the results per each iteration. In Linpack even with the larger problem sizes, the main issue will be the relative dead time (~20% of the trial time). Between the each trial the CPU stress drops to around half of the maximum, which allows the CPU and the other components to cool significantly. In Prime95 the dead time between the FFT sizes is non-existent.

With AMD 15h CPUs there are two main issues which limit the Fmax and the stability. The temperature and the L2 caches. On these processors the Fmax of the CPU is always the Fmax of the L2 caches, not the CPU cores themselves. For that reason you want to stress the L2 caches as much as possible. In Prime95 you want to use larger >128K FFT sizes for the maximum heat dissipation. The stress of the L2 caches peak when they are utilized by ~75%, so setting the FFT size limit to 768K works pretty well on 15h CPUs with 1024K L2 cache per core (or 2048K per CU).

Even the SmallFFT and Blend modes in Prime95 result in similar CPU stress levels, their FFT sizes are not optimal to exploit the weaknesses of the CPU. SmallFFT sizes are 8-64K which are too small to give the L2 caches a proper bashing, while in Blend mode they can be to small, optimal or too large. LargeFFTs don´t test the memory like Blend mode or Linpack, however you shouldn´t use these programs to test the memory anyway.

The L2 ECC can be turned off in order to ease the errors popping up (system crash when errors occur), however the feature is not available for end users wink.gif


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Turbo I'm assuming?

Not Single GPU but still was fun: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5407931 smile.gif
I am just toying sarge.

Here's 2. 290 that unlocked to 290X + 290.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/6268384

As am I smile.gif

Nice cards though, better than my 290's could ever manage:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1805629

I'm wondering if it's drivers or just the 290x portion of yours that bumped it up thinking.gif
 
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Nice info, @The Stilt. I was just basing my assumption on the way errors pop up when the whole system is stressed. In which case, Blend and/or do very well. thumb.gif

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As am I smile.gif

Nice cards though, better than my 290's could ever manage:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1805629

I'm wondering if it's drivers or just the 290x portion of yours that bumped it up thinking.gif

It's the 290X part for sure. Though, my other 290 was not in the mix. smile.gif You know what that card can do. tongue.gif

The reason it was didn't join the bunch is that, I came in yesterday with the system off. No power switch response. No display. I hope it is still alive. frown.gif
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Nice info, @The Stilt. I was just basing my assumption on the way errors pop up when the whole system is stressed. In which case, Blend and/or do very well. thumb.gif

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As am I smile.gif

Nice cards though, better than my 290's could ever manage:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1805629

I'm wondering if it's drivers or just the 290x portion of yours that bumped it up thinking.gif

It's the 290X part for sure. Though, my other 290 was not in the mix. smile.gif You know what that card can do. tongue.gif

The reason it was didn't join the bunch is that, I came in yesterday with the system off. No power switch response. No display. I hope it is still alive. frown.gif

Looking at some other scores of mine I'm inclined to agree and that really sucks about the 290 man.....hopefully it's ok redface.gif
 
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Looking at some other scores of mine I'm inclined to agree and that really sucks about the 290 man.....hopefully it's ok redface.gif

I hope too. I tore it down off the waterblock and found nothing exciting. So I guess some moisture preventex it from powering on. Though, no electrical/moisture marks appear. I am kinda scared that static killed it.

It was a hella bencher! I am looking for a good bios to try on the unlocked 290X atm.
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Looking at some other scores of mine I'm inclined to agree and that really sucks about the 290 man.....hopefully it's ok redface.gif

I hope too. I tore it down off the waterblock and found nothing exciting. So I guess some moisture preventex it from powering on. Though, no electrical/moisture marks appear. I am kinda scared that static killed it.

It was a hella bencher! I am looking for a good bios to try on the unlocked 290X atm.

Either the PT1 or the 390x for 290x Bios might work well smile.gif
 
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Looking at some other scores of mine I'm inclined to agree and that really sucks about the 290 man.....hopefully it's ok redface.gif


I hope too. I tore it down off the waterblock and found nothing exciting. So I guess some moisture preventex it from powering on. Though, no electrical/moisture marks appear. I am kinda scared that static killed it.

It was a hella bencher! I am looking for a good bios to try on the unlocked 290X atm.


Either the PT1 or the 390x for 290x Bios might work well smile.gif

Have you tried PT1?

I am looking at adding bunch of V's on the a 390X bios via Afterburner. biggrin.gif

Baby steps.
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Looking at some other scores of mine I'm inclined to agree and that really sucks about the 290 man.....hopefully it's ok redface.gif


I hope too. I tore it down off the waterblock and found nothing exciting. So I guess some moisture preventex it from powering on. Though, no electrical/moisture marks appear. I am kinda scared that static killed it.

It was a hella bencher! I am looking for a good bios to try on the unlocked 290X atm.


Either the PT1 or the 390x for 290x Bios might work well smile.gif

Have you tried PT1?

I am looking at adding bunch of V's on the a 390X bios via Afterburner. biggrin.gif

Baby steps.

Only BIOS I've flashed in the Sapphire OC bios on my 295x2, everything else is stock bios smile.gif

I have a friend who used the PT1 Bios daily for 290x Quadfire though, clocked pretty well, his better cards hit 1300/1700 iirc biggrin.gif
 
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Looking at some other scores of mine I'm inclined to agree and that really sucks about the 290 man.....hopefully it's ok redface.gif


I hope too. I tore it down off the waterblock and found nothing exciting. So I guess some moisture preventex it from powering on. Though, no electrical/moisture marks appear. I am kinda scared that static killed it.

It was a hella bencher! I am looking for a good bios to try on the unlocked 290X atm.


Either the PT1 or the 390x for 290x Bios might work well smile.gif

Have you tried PT1?

I am looking at adding bunch of V's on the a 390X bios via Afterburner. biggrin.gif

Baby steps.

Only BIOS I've flashed in the Sapphire OC bios on my 295x2, everything else is stock bios smile.gif

I have a friend who used the PT1 Bios daily for 290x Quadfire though, clocked pretty well, his better cards hit 1300/1700 iirc biggrin.gif

I thought I can hit 1700 on these Elpida chips. But was wrong. Or maybe need to look into giving it some aux voltage by modifying the BIOS.
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I thought I can hit 1700 on these Elpida chips. But was wrong. Or maybe need to look into giving it some aux voltage by modifying the BIOS.

290's did 1250/1500 (Elpida), 290x does 1287/1375 (Hynix), 390x does 1200/1700 (Hynix), 295x2 does 1250/1500 (Hynix)

Those are max firestrike clocks btw
 
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