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Or just switch to full water and be done with it. Far more silent. Far more better
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Have you looked at the deepcool dracula? That might be an option?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sgt Bilko View Post

Check out the Raijintek Morpheus cooler.

Should be able to tame a 7970 passively or at least with very little airflow smile.gif

I am not gonna search reviews to see its passive cooling capacity, for 2 reasons:

1) Doesn't list 260X in compatibility list:

Hawaii chip: R9 290/290x
Curacao chip: HD 7850, 7870 xt; R9 270/270x
http://www.raijintek.com/en/products_detail.php?ProductID=11

As a matter of fact, the Sapphire i got, must be using slightly different than reference PCB, which is why the Accelero L2 which is certified for 260X in the official compatiblity list, would collide with 2 RAM sinks. My impression is that Sapphire has positioned the GPU die slightly further up than normal position. In fact, i saw the Accelero S3, that has the heatsink part for making contact with the chip very low. If i were to put that on my card, which has the chip high, half the heatsink would protrude from the upper margin of the card. It would be like my GPU grew antennas. So if it's not in the list, it's out of the question.

2) There is only 1 shop here that sells it and i can't buy from them. They 've very good prices, but they have the dodgiest RMA system. I have quarreled with everyone in there. Basically, they are the only shop that doesn't keep onsite nor sends you electronic receipt. Most shops send you pdf with the receipt. They only send you paper receipt, which i never keep around or the ink fades out and it's useless. When you need RMA, without the piece of paper receipt, they play deaf. So i am not buying from them. I 've arrived to warn them with lawsuit last time and that was the last transaction i finished with them..

http://www.trovaprezzi.it/prezzo_dissipatori-e-ventole_raijintek_morpheus.aspx



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Originally Posted by mus1mus View Post

It's on one of the results of a query "gpu cooler amd" by the way. smile.gif

But it looks rather fan speed dependent. And yes, might still be too big for our UV champ. thumb.gif

Yeah, my guess is that it will still need a fan, but i won't bother to search reviews for fanless performance for the reasons stated above...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mega Man View Post

Or just switch to full water and be done with it. Far more silent. Far more better

Me water cooling? biggrin.gif It isn't going to happen! I 've thought everything about that many years ago. If i don't trust fans 1 time, i don't trust water coolers x10. They still have fan and plus they can leak. And let me describe the whole philosphy i have:

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2) I want systems that i can leave running while i am at work. Basically, i often put an encoding queue with "shut down when finished" option. This means, that i want peace of mind, that when i come back, the PC won't be on fire. Which excluded water cooling, not only because it still relies on fan, but also because it can leak or pump may fail. With air cooler, if the fan fails, there are chances that actually the air cooler might still be able to passively cool the CPU. The Rasetsu, is actually very likely to be able to do that, because it has incredibly slim fins. You can bend any fin with your pinky with no effort. This is great for passive cooling. What i 've done, is replace the unreliable Scythe fan (it has slightlyi better performance, but who cares) with an Enermax Twister Pressure, which has BOL (barometric oil) bearing and should last forever. And this way i minimize the danger.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Alastair View Post

Have you looked at the deepcool dracula? That might be an option?

No shop sells it here:

http://www.trovaprezzi.it/categoria.aspx?id=20155&libera=deepcool+dracula&prezzomin=&prezzomax=

Like i say many times, here it's not USA. We don't have Newegg and computer builders here are like white elephants. So shops don't bring "exotic" stuff, because they won't sell. So they try to bring more "common" stuff that is likely to be sold. People here keep their PCs forever without upgrade and when they become hopelessly obsolete, they just go buy a new OEM PC and that's it. Gamers are limited to teenagers and university students mainly. After 30 years normal gamers are a rare species and those that still play, are like "Sunday gamers". Those like me, that grew up since childhood with computer and continue to build their own PCs do so for low-medium performance computers. A great shop that was specialized in modding stuff and was bringing some pretty awesome rare things, closed a few years ago... I used to shop from them... But apparently not many others did.

Anyway, if i have to rely on fan, i now have 2 Acceleros L2 plus. I mean, what the hell, they can't die in 2 months! Fanless is good, but i can accept losing 2 expansion slots. Losing 4 expansion slots, is not an option.
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That long rant biggrin.gif ends with a conclusion, fanless GPU is not an option. tongue.gif
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Undervolter View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sgt Bilko View Post

Check out the Raijintek Morpheus cooler.

Should be able to tame a 7970 passively or at least with very little airflow smile.gif

I am not gonna search reviews to see its passive cooling capacity, for 2 reasons:

1) Doesn't list 260X in compatibility list:

Hawaii chip: R9 290/290x
Curacao chip: HD 7850, 7870 xt; R9 270/270x
http://www.raijintek.com/en/products_detail.php?ProductID=11
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
As a matter of fact, the Sapphire i got, must be using slightly different than reference PCB, which is why the Accelero L2 which is certified for 260X in the official compatiblity list, would collide with 2 RAM sinks. My impression is that Sapphire has positioned the GPU die slightly further up than normal position. In fact, i saw the Accelero S3, that has the heatsink part for making contact with the chip very low. If i were to put that on my card, which has the chip high, half the heatsink would protrude from the upper margin of the card. It would be like my GPU grew antennas. So if it's not in the list, it's out of the question.

2) There is only 1 shop here that sells it and i can't buy from them. They 've very good prices, but they have the dodgiest RMA system. I have quarreled with everyone in there. Basically, they are the only shop that doesn't keep onsite nor sends you electronic receipt. Most shops send you pdf with the receipt. They only send you paper receipt, which i never keep around or the ink fades out and it's useless. When you need RMA, without the piece of paper receipt, they play deaf. So i am not buying from them. I 've arrived to warn them with lawsuit last time and that was the last transaction i finished with them..

http://www.trovaprezzi.it/prezzo_dissipatori-e-ventole_raijintek_morpheus.aspx



Quote:
Originally Posted by mus1mus View Post

It's on one of the results of a query "gpu cooler amd" by the way. smile.gif

But it looks rather fan speed dependent. And yes, might still be too big for our UV champ. thumb.gif

Yeah, my guess is that it will still need a fan, but i won't bother to search reviews for fanless performance for the reasons stated above...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mega Man View Post

Or just switch to full water and be done with it. Far more silent. Far more better

Me water cooling? biggrin.gif It isn't going to happen! I 've thought everything about that many years ago. If i don't trust fans 1 time, i don't trust water coolers x10. They still have fan and plus they can leak. And let me describe the whole philosphy i have:

1) I want quiet systems. This is why avoild like the plague cases with front mesh and top fans (i have 1 left with front mesh and i will change it sooner or later, it's just that i don't use it much). I want only side fan. If you do that and put up to 1200 rpm case fans, you get silent PC. End of story. I keep 2 PCs in the same room and even if they are both on, if someone walks in and doesn't see the monitos lit, he doesn't notice that switched on PCs are running. There is no need for foams to dress the side panels or anything. Just avoid front mesh and top fans (top fan holes) and use low RPM wiht fans and you 're set. Even the Sapphire fan was quiet enough, because at the end, 120W aren't excessive heat. The Arctic is much cooler (in fact, i bought it after reading the overclockers.com review and saying that it's very quiet is maybe an understatement. I barely become to hear it when it goes to 100% rpm, but i play Skyrim with less than that. And it's a noise that doesn't bother you).

2) I want systems that i can leave running while i am at work. Basically, i often put an encoding queue with "shut down when finished" option. This means, that i want peace of mind, that when i come back, the PC won't be on fire. Which excluded water cooling, not only because it still relies on fan, but also because it can leak or pump may fail. With air cooler, if the fan fails, there are chances that actually the air cooler might still be able to passively cool the CPU. The Rasetsu, is actually very likely to be able to do that, because it has incredibly slim fins. You can bend any fin with your pinky with no effort. This is great for passive cooling. What i 've done, is replace the unreliable Scythe fan (it has slightlyi better performance, but who cares) with an Enermax Twister Pressure, which has BOL (barometric oil) bearing and should last forever. And this way i minimize the danger.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Alastair View Post

Have you looked at the deepcool dracula? That might be an option?

No shop sells it here:

http://www.trovaprezzi.it/categoria.aspx?id=20155&libera=deepcool+dracula&prezzomin=&prezzomax=

Like i say many times, here it's not USA. We don't have Newegg and computer builders here are like white elephants. So shops don't bring "exotic" stuff, because they won't sell. So they try to bring more "common" stuff that is likely to be sold. People here keep their PCs forever without upgrade and when they become hopelessly obsolete, they just go buy a new OEM PC and that's it. Gamers are limited to teenagers and university students mainly. After 30 years normal gamers are a rare species and those that still play, are like "Sunday gamers". Those like me, that grew up since childhood with computer and continue to build their own PCs do so for low-medium performance computers. A great shop that was specialized in modding stuff and was bringing some pretty awesome rare things, closed a few years ago... I used to shop from them... But apparently not many others did.

Anyway, if i have to rely on fan, i now have 2 Acceleros L2 plus. I mean, what the hell, they can't die in 2 months! Fanless is good, but i can accept losing 2 expansion slots. Losing 4 expansion slots, is not an option
.

Ahhh, was on my phone before, didn't see you had a 260x tongue.gif
Quote:
Originally Posted by mus1mus View Post

That long rant biggrin.gif ends with a conclusion, fanless GPU is not an option. tongue.gif

Pretty much...
 
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That long rant biggrin.gif ends with a conclusion, fanless GPU is not an option. tongue.gif

It's been a perfectly viable option for 10 years for me, but i wasn't playing so demanding games like Skyrim. It's not an option if you need 120W TDP. Unfortunately... But, i hope Arctic will live up to its reputation for long lasting fans. I had an Arctic Freezer 7 or something back in s939, that cooler is still running on a friend's PC that i gave it to him. Immortal. For my other rigs where i don't play anytning remotely demanding (1999 games run amazingly well even on HD 5450! biggrin.gif ), i will keep passive, no doubt about that!
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Lucky you, you have that option. Round here, with no winter, 30C environment all year round, no fan, no fun. lachen.gif

Luckily, living in the city means noise is no longer an issue. Too damn noisy I am already immune.

Rural living too. Nocturnal creatures all around making noises (prolly mating noises) while people want to sleep.
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Lucky you, you have that option. Round here, with no winter, 30C environment all year round, no fan, no fun. lachen.gif

^ True that....

I mean at least i get winter but even then, not an option redface.gif
 
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Just a note though, watercooling leaks would be scary if you haven't done it yet. Otherwise, it's all in your hands.

You can also run a passive loop. Granting you have enough room for a big rad.

Pumps too, can be made redundant.

And to be honest, everything in this world fails at times. So nothing's 100% safe for a pessimist anyways. But to each his own. Much respect. thumb.gif
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Ya know, UV, I realize you're not a big Nvidia fan but many of the 9xx series are 0dB till about 60c. The fan isn't even active until then. The chips run pretty cool. I know that even benching unless I set a fan speed I really couldn't hear it on my 980 Strix.
If you're going to game it may be time to consider something in the 960-970 range with a good cooler. When you're not gaming you'll never know it's there.
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