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I think that version of Prime is a bit hot (not soo sure). Try the 28.X Prime.

Yeah, since FX is an old production CPU, i still use Prime 27.9 and it's perfect for it. Newer isn't always better. Prime 27.9 still draws 20W more power than x264 video encoding (which is one of the worst real life tasks you can give to a CPU).
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I'd try it for the Vcore requirement for sure. But that is just me. biggrin.gif

Oh, i will for sure! Thing is, i will have to reinstall Windows, because i have obsessive traits with clean systems and i can't stand the idea of installing Nvidia drivers in a PC where it had AMD GPU drivers, plus, i can't use a new SSD without format. So i will have to install Win7 again with initial windows tweaking and drivers ony ---> image, then add all programs ---> image, then add my standard 2 games (Plants vs Zombies and Europa Universalis IV)---> image, then add Skyrim---> image. Practically, i will eat an entire day. BUT! I have an undervolting reputation to respect here and i would be no undervolter, if i at least didn't seek the lowest stock voltage, the voltage for 4Ghz and then go to 4.5Ghz out of curiocity. I will do this BEFORE i format and reinstall Windows and then decide which CPU to keep active. If i get impressed, i may bother to find voltages for all P-States and keep the 8300 active. Will post CPU batch number and results for you overclocking maniacs. biggrin.gif
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I did mention Voltage and not clock eh?

Yeah, you are that special kid who defies norms. tongue.gif I dunno if that is just your OCD or N3rd tendency on things.

I always do a dirrty run just to get a feel of things. But again, I don't have that meticulous nature of some of you round here.
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I did mention Voltage and not clock eh?

Yeah, you are that special kid who defies norms. tongue.gif I dunno if that is just your OCD or N3rd tendency on things.

I always do a dirrty run just to get a feel of things. But again, I don't have that meticulous nature of some of you round here.

All human beings, from a psychoanalytic point of view, are a mix of neurotic tendencies (or traits). When these tendencies are more or less of equal strength, the individual is "normal". If one becomes too strong, it becomes pathological (plain neurosis). I have a guaranteed obsessive trait, which was cultivated through my studying years and professional requirements. In fact, it was during my university years, that i became obsessed about minimum startup programs, clean PC, imaging everytime i remove kernel drivers to revert to a "perfect state" etc. Can't do anything about that anymore, it's too late. It's not OCD, as this implies ritualistic behavioral patterns. Mine is limited to having spare parts and having the PC "clean" so that it is snappy. I also can't stand for example having gas station employees putting air in my car tyres, because they don't care about accuracy. So i have my own digital air pressure meter and air pump and i check the air pressure on tyres on my own. I don't care much about the rest of the car, but the tyres are important, because it's the only thing that is in contact with the road. biggrin.gif

On the positive side, obsessive traits are beneficial to have in my line of work. They make you better than others and much better than the "distracted" or "unattentive to detail" person. One has to live with his neurotical traits. biggrin.gif In fact, my girlfriend hates my PCs with a passion, because "i take too much care of them", "spend too much money on them" (she 'd much prefer to spend them on her clothing of course), i am "childish about upgrading them, fixing them etc", she "doesn't understand why i need more than 1 PC", "what i do by keeping spares" etc. Women...

It was actually Agent Smith's case here that rang me a reminder bell, that having spare motherboards isn't enough, if when the motherboard fails, kills the CPU with it. And i remembered, i had no spare FX8xxx. And seeing today an FX8300 on the same shop it was too tempting. Although they still haven't replied to me to confirm that they can modify my order. Fingers crossed. These are slooooooow in sending you orders.

P.S.: One of the funniest moments i remember from university. Professor asks: "Who of you believe that have no neurotical traits, raise your hand". All class raised their hands. Professor: "Lower your hands, you are all wrong". biggrin.gif

P.S2: A well tuned, uncluttered undervolted PC, can feel snappier than an overclocked, clogged, loading a gazillion of junk at startup, PC. I 've seen it many times with my own eyes. smile.gif
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I too work in a field where my ocd is actually beneficial. Nearly everyday I make operational changes that if were done incorrectly would render up to $3,200,000 of product completely worthless. During other
times of the year I work with material that has 6 years of work behind it that could be lost with a moments carelessness. Some of which is. Impossible to recover. Double and triple checking has saved the company 10s of millions in saleable product. Ive caught 3 mistakes others have made, they are eternally greatful for my ocd btw. Lol
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I too work in a field where my ocd is actually beneficial. Nearly everyday I make operational changes that if were done incorrectly would render up to $3,200,000 of product completely worthless. During other
times of the year I work with material that has 6 years of work behind it that could be lost with a moments carelessness. Some of which is. Impossible to recover. Double and triple checking has saved the company 10s of millions in saleable product. Ive caught 3 mistakes others have made, they are eternally greatful for my ocd btw. Lol

Exactly. It's a curse, but in some professions, it's a bliss too. I am a doctor. The obsessive trait, i developed during studies, exactly because of the insane level of detail they were requiring from us and because i was perfectionist by character and was never satisfied from myself if i didn't remember "everything". Which is impossible to do, but i was always trying. This leads you exactly to developing obsessive trait. It's the most common trait in exactly "perfectionists". On the other hand, i 've had a professor of abdominal surgery, saying, after a phone call in front of us, from a nurse telling him that a clamp was missing: "lads, this is why i always say that after surgery, always do an X-Ray to the patient, because you never know what you forgot inside the abdomen". At that time, i had a laugh. He told me, "dear boy, there is nothing to laugh at, these things happen". Well, it's true. And they happen to those who exactly don't "double check" and they are distracted by character. I 've had medic students flat mates, that were forgetting the door open, the keys on the door, the gas flame on the kitchen on. These are those with increased chances to forget the surgical instruments in the abdomen.

For this, is why there are "standardized procedures" to minimize the character defects. For instance, by standard procedure, when you take a bioptical sample or a simple blood sample, the first thing to do is label the container and write the patient's name. Because, many people, by character, will otherwise say "Ok, i will do it later" and they will forget or mix the tests. This is called "procedural bias". There is also "analytical bias" later on. Human errors will always happen, but some are more prone to do them than others. Obsessive traits are less error prone. It's the classical "Sherlock Holmes" type. Sherlock Holmes was exactly written by Conan Doyle, a doctor himself, inspired by another doctor who apparently was above average in semiotics, arriving to diagnosis from minimal signs of the patient.

The "distracted" or "looser" characters on the other hand, are better for relaxing the patient (telling jokes, dealing with children, etc). But, one must thank the guys that invented procedure standardization and protocols, because otherwise, half the doctors in hospitals would be quite dangerous. A bit like it was in the 19th century and before... On the other hand, perfectionists suffer if dealing with children, because they can't make them give accurate information durng the anamnesis (you have to rely on parents, but the parents aren't the patient) or not any information at all (baby crying hysterically).
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In my younger days, I didn't know a such a word existed for the definition you guys gave other than meticulous.

I thought some people are just hard to please and be satisfied.

I am not good in any special something. But I always try not to be bound by what others can do, and doing.
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In my younger days, I didn't know a such a word existed for the definition you guys gave other than meticulous.

I thought some people are just hard to please and be satisfied.

I am not good in any special something. But I always try not to be bound by what others can do, and doing.

Obsessive compulsive disorder is a very abused term, that only applies to few people (the prototype is Adrian Monk in the TV series). Most other people have simply "obsessive traits". For instance, i am a very disordinate person in any thing i don't care about. I don't align things on my desk, i don't pile them up tidyly, i don't even do good cable management for my PC, because i don't really care about cable management. I am very careful about what i care though. The things i care about i double check them before i call them good.

Nobody is good at everything. Every human being has weaknesses and strengths. If you would force me to go to pediatrics for a month, i would probably shoot myself. Being good enough in many things is also a strength. The important is to have self-awareness, to play on your strengths and avoid where you know you would be weak.
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Sometimes, having slow as molasses computer e-shops is actually beneficial. I first ordered on Oct 30 GPU+RAM. On Nov 2 my order was still not ready to send, so i added SSD+1 HDD. Today is Nov 5, just received confirmation that they will add the FX8300 in the same parcel, since they still aren't ready to send the previous items. lachen.gif I guess after 1 week, i may get it... Eat your heart out, Newegg!
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Sometimes, having slow as molasses computer e-shops is actually beneficial. I first ordered on Oct 30 GPU+RAM. On Nov 2 my order was still not ready to send, so i added SSD+1 HDD. Today is Nov 5, just received confirmation that they will add the FX8300 in the same parcel, since they still aren't ready to send the previous items. lachen.gif I guess after 1 week, i may get it... Eat your heart out, Newegg!

Tiger direct?

Be aware that their 1 year warranty claim on the package and website is a falsified lie, and AMD nor Tiger will in no way whatsoever back it up. Just a heads up redface.gif
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Sometimes, having slow as molasses computer e-shops is actually beneficial. I first ordered on Oct 30 GPU+RAM. On Nov 2 my order was still not ready to send, so i added SSD+1 HDD. Today is Nov 5, just received confirmation that they will add the FX8300 in the same parcel, since they still aren't ready to send the previous items. lachen.gif I guess after 1 week, i may get it... Eat your heart out, Newegg!

All I can say is wow, I ordered from newegg last Friday package arrived on Monday. Amazon order Friday got here Tuesday.
Did this shop have to order everything from someone else first?
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FX 9370,FX 8350, FX 6350, PII X4 965 ASUS Crosshair V Formula z, ASUS Sabertooth 990... 2x ASUS GTX580 DCUII, ASUS HD 6970 G.Skill Flare 1800, Pi Black 2000 
Hard DriveCoolingOSPower
Kingston Hyperx 3K Phobya Supernova 1260 Koolance 380a Win7 Pro 64 Leadex SuperFlower 1K 
Case
Banchetto 101 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 6700k Asus Maximus VIII Hero Evga GTX 980Ti K|NGP|N G.Skill TridentZ 3600 
Hard DriveCoolingOSPower
Samsung 850 Pro Dragon Extreme F1 Windows 7 / Vista /XP Superflower Leadex 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen 5 1600x MSI x370 Titanium ASUS GTX980 DCII G.Skill Trident Z RGB  
Case
Phanteks Enthoo Luxe 
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