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I spent more on cpu/mobo on Intel 2011 ( cpu used and mobo new ) then ALL my vishara cpu/ mobo..... sad huh ?

Exactly. Because if we go back in time 1-2 years ago, the Intel prices were even higher. The cost difference was abysmal. I actually bought the 6300 in 2013 and the FX8320 in 2014 and actually for a bit cheaper than today's AMD prices. Everyone is disappointed by AMD, but i am actually thrilled by what my money bought me for video encoding! In 2009 i paid 120 euros for an Athlon 605e. I still have the receipt. With the same money today, i am getting 8300, which is 95W, so not bad, but it's a monster in anything in comparison.

I am stoked at how much value i got from AM3 and AM3+. If i were in USA, i would have paid half probably, because i would have taken all the amazing combo deals, but still, being where i am, it was amazing. I may hit another octacore when they go EOL. I bagged my Athlon 640 (boxed), when they got EOL for 60 euros. Amazing value. That's a CPU that can remain relevant for years for non gamers. Heck, i got 2 Athlon II X2 (2.8Ghz, 3.2Ghz) for something like 28 and 32 euros respectively. These things are still amazing and will upgrade my brother's office PC when i m done with them. 32 euros for 3.2Ghz dual core, how ridiculously cheap is that? I am talking brand new.

Worst case scenario, i m gonna bag a quad or a hexa core for whatever dirt cheap price i find. I may also buy yet another motherboard, who knows. I plan on using these CPUs for many years.

Thinking about it, i think my next upgrade will be when Zen+ goes EOL. Since i 've no use for more power anymore, it makes sense. You get the best chips (because they are mature), the best RAM (same), tried motherboard chipsets and the lowest prices because the shops want to get rid of them! biggrin.gif
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I found a good comparison, 2 of my own runs one with 4790k the other with the 9370. The only place the FX rally lost was the Physics score


It's odd that with the handicap that FX is given in the physics and combined scores vs Intel's i7's that it can come so very close in overall scores in modern 3d benches and even in certain gaming situations.

I have a heck of a time matching my FX/ 7970 scores with my 3770K rig and I swear my FX got better frames in BF4 at max settings than my 4790K does using that card. I know when looking at my old fraps data there are spreadsheets that support the notion as well, but I'd need to set things up properly to do a fair comparison.
However as is generally the case if you turn down the graphics to low , the 4790K rig will produce many more crummy looking frames when both are clocked at 4.9ghz. The difference isn't discernible in most cases because they both produce more fps than we can recognize.

EDIT: Example
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/9234388/3dm11/9171276
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I really don't know about Firestrike, but i wanted to post this:



I am currently, playing Skyrim, which keeps at 60 fps, while encoding Blu Ray preset slower and with live internet stream at the same time. And the best is that you can't feel the CPU being choked. Incredible.

What more could i ask for from a poor CPU? biggrin.gif
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It's surprising isn't it?

FS is higly biased to Intel. As most benchmarks are.

Physics test, last time I checked loads the FX to about 60% and Combined about 60% on 4 threads. Someone can verify this. While on Intel, all threads get loaded significantly.

Oh well, they call it bottleneck. mad.gif
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It's surprising isn't it?

FS is higly biased to Intel. As most benchmarks are.

Physics test, last time I checked loads the FX to about 60% and Combined about 60% on 4 threads. Someone can verify this. While on Intel, all threads get loaded significantly.

Oh well, they call it bottleneck. mad.gif

Physics on FX is 100% usage (cept Win 10 which is 90%) and combined defines the FX CPU's as 4c/8t so it only uses half the cores.

I posted that in here a fair while ago, Orkin knows what I'm on about tongue.gif
 
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Physics on FX is 100% usage (cept Win 10 which is 90%) and combined defines the FX CPU's as 4c/8t so it only uses half the cores.

I posted that in here a fair while ago, Orkin knows what I'm on about tongue.gif

Information in this thread gets buried quick, it should be stuck on the first page in all honesty.
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It's surprising isn't it?

FS is higly biased to Intel. As most benchmarks are.

Physics test, last time I checked loads the FX to about 60% and Combined about 60% on 4 threads. Someone can verify this. While on Intel, all threads get loaded significantly.

Oh well, they call it bottleneck. mad.gif

Physics on FX is 100% usage (cept Win 10 which is 90%) and combined defines the FX CPU's as 4c/8t so it only uses half the cores.

I posted that in here a fair while ago, Orkin knows what I'm on about tongue.gif
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There's a guy claiming 5ghz on an fx6300 cooling it with a h60 is that even possible?
Perhaps...the little brother (6300) seems to require less cooling.

Yep, i had my 6300 at 4.5 stable on the Stock 125w Cooler, gonna try under my loop at some point smile.gif
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Wondering if I could ask a favor from one of the club members?
I've got my benching rigs outfitted with chips other than Vishera's and would like to see a cpu/gpu usage screenshot from the "combined" portion of Firestrike. If someone with an 8 core Vishera and dual monitors would like to capture a SS for me, I'd sure appreciate it. If not, I'll most likely have a Vishera back online in a couple days, but I'm a bit impatient....lol. Clockspeeds aren't important.

Something that looks like this would be great.



I was thinking that cpu usage is only about 60% on the Vishera runs but wanted to make sure.

Thank you smile.gif

EDIT: forgot to mention this, It's important to capture the SS a few seconds into the test as cpu usage ramps up until the characters get to the left side of the screen as they fight.


I'm using Triple atm......does it need to be Dual?

What exactly are you looking for?
. I was noticining the combined score was better on my thubans than my visheras in fire strike despite lwerer physics scores. Just looking to explain it away. Any screen shot showing CPU usage at that point in the bench would be fine. It gets about 90% usage out of the thuban but I think it gimps the vishera to about 60% if I remember correctly.


Ohhh, i know what that is. (I get to teach you something for a change biggrin.gif )

Firestrike Physics test uses Logical cores (so for the FX 8xxx it uses 8 cores/threads, i7-47xx it's 8 threads, Thuban it's 6 cores/threads etc) while the Combined test uses "Physical' Cores (i7-47xx = 4 Cores, Thuban = 6 cores and FX = 4 cores)

Basically Futuremark doesn't see the FX chips as having 8 cores.....they see it as a 4 Module/ 4 Core CPU with 8 threads.

I have a tweet from them at some point saying it if you'd like to see it?

but yeah.....basically all FX chips take a dump in the combined test due to the fact they are only at half load rolleyes.gif

EDIT: Found that tweet:


Found it!! biggrin.gif
 
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Nice. One request though:

Run Physics with HWInfo running and has a monitor tab for each thread.

I am pretty sure it didn't load the FX 100% on each thread. Last time I checked.

And ohh, I need to request as my Kitty is dead again. frown.gif
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Nice. One request though:

Run Physics with HWInfo running and has a monitor tab for each thread.

I am pretty sure it didn't load the FX 100% on each thread. Last time I checked.

And ohh, I need to request as my Kitty is dead again. frown.gif

Ill run some when i finish work (Win 10 + Win 7)

Sorry to hear about the kitty man.....sad day frown.gif
 
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