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Would I be able to pop one of these V8 monsters into my Crosshair Iv extreme AM3+
Bulldozer is on the "CPU Support List" of your board, I didn't see the Vishera's. I wouldn't use a FX chip on anything else than a 990FX board anyway. It's how it works the best, and otherwise it's bound to headaches imho, considering how touchy it already is.

Rah , I hate this bug where my posts shows up in an invisible page!
Edited by Tarnix - 12/13/12 at 4:37pm
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OCCT is a very good program. the large data set is better for error detection.

I understand that but like these guys have been saying prime is no good for stress testing the vischeras because for some reason it need a ton of extra voltage to be stable with it. I was just making sure I was correct in thinking that I can use occt to obtain a higher overclock with less voltage with that being said. How long would one run occt for to make sure I'm decently stable? Also what about IBT? How long would one run that for?
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OCCT is a very good program. the large data set is better for error detection.

I understand that but like these guys have been saying prime is no good for stress testing the vischeras because for some reason it need a ton of extra voltage to be stable with it. I was just making sure I was correct in thinking that I can use occt to obtain a higher overclock with less voltage with that being said. How long would one run occt for to make sure I'm decently stable? Also what about IBT? How long would one run that for?


Thats a loaded question. Stable is largely in the eye of the operator. I run OCCT, IBT, P95 for 6-8 hours each and then run it through a list of games (Crysis2, Dirt 3, Metro 2033, etc) with the GPU's OC'ed if it passes that i use it and if no BSOD's or other weird behavior , I call it good. I have been running @ 5.2GHzand now 5.3GHz for over three months without a single BSOD. I have seen people who are willing to put up with the occasional BSOD for a higher clock.
it's really up to you, just keep it well cooled.
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Thats a loaded question. Stable is largely in the eye of the operator. I run OCCT, IBT, P95 for 6-8 hours each and then run it through a list of games (Crysis2, Dirt 3, Metro 2033, etc) with the GPU's OC'ed if it passes that i use it and if no BSOD's or other weird behavior , I call it good. I have been running @ 5.2GHzand now 5.3GHz for over three months without a single BSOD. I have seen people who are willing to put up with the occasional BSOD for a higher clock.
it's really up to you, just keep it well cooled.
^This. I do the same. I just don't see the point of going through 24h of prime95. At one point, I'll start folding, and it it holds, well, then I got it.
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I understand that but like these guys have been saying prime is no good for stress testing the vischeras because for some reason it need a ton of extra voltage to be stable with it. I was just making sure I was correct in thinking that I can use occt to obtain a higher overclock with less voltage with that being said. How long would one run occt for to make sure I'm decently stable? Also what about IBT? How long would one run that for?
That, or some like me and mezmenir just gets ILLEGAL SUMOUT above 4.65GHz but can fold for 3 days... kookoo.gif
Edited by Tarnix - 12/13/12 at 4:59pm
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I mean it may very well be the way I applied the thermal paste. I've only ever used a direct pipe heat sink like this twice now so I haven't really found a perfect method of putting thermal paste on. And here take a look at this:

Hmmm....

A couple things I notice.
Motherboard Temp 36C (Do you have high ambient temps?)
Socket Temp 72
Core Temp 61

So maybe that program is reading 10 Celsius high? Or you have high ambient temps.

Or your case airflow is low, and your CPU isn't seating right somehow.

If it is still the CPU cooler, Coolermaster usually has a sticker on the base of the heatsink. If you weren't able to get all the thick glue off, it will cause issues.
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I've been trying to google the issue with prime and vischera chips you guys where talking about but not finding anything. I'm at work so I can't test it out yet. Can you guys link me some stuff on it?
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Hmmm....
A couple things I notice.
Motherboard Temp 36C (Do you have high ambient temps?)
Socket Temp 72
Core Temp 61
So maybe that program is reading 10 Celsius high? Or you have high ambient temps.
Or your case airflow is low, and your CPU isn't seating right somehow.
If it is still the CPU cooler, Coolermaster usually has a sticker on the base of the heatsink. If you weren't able to get all the thick glue off, it will cause issues.

Ambient temps, motherboard is around 30 C, socket temp sits around 38 C, and cores sit around 23 C.

I know it's not cause of and sticker resin or whatever, I clean the bottom of the heatsink with isopropryl alcohol every time I apply new thermal paste.
Edited by hatrix216 - 12/13/12 at 7:10pm
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It's possible they aren't great overclocking boards. But at $118 I suppose people have to be realistic in their expectations. People tend to be disappointed because they see others running lower V core and getting better clocks because of LLC - comparing loaded voltages is the only way to see what the board will do. It certainly takes more finesse to overclock without LLC. I know of a guy that was benching on the gd-65 with an 8320 @ 4.9 ghz 1.53 volts @ load 1.6 setting at idle , still wasn't happy because he didn't hit 5 ghz. rolleyes.gif ( tough to please enthusiasts isn't it?) One thing is for sure, no one is jumping up and down praising the bios on them.
In thunder's case , I think heat is causing his problems, he seems to have one of the highest VID chips I've seen. It's my understanding that chips like that are usually limitied in their overclocking potential.
The OC genie on my GD 80 is terribad. Which is disappointing because the genie works well on my socket 1155 p 67 gd65 board. Also the auto MAX FSB overclocking feature on my 790fx gd70's is awesome. Click the setting in bios, boot machine and in 30 seconds it finds a great FSB overclock ( 376 was the best they did). I don't think I have outdone that manually.
After seeing someone posts about gskill not playing well with their vish, I switched out the Gskill for some Geil ram , seems to have improved stability.
Learning a lot through the comparisons , thanks to all who contribute thumb.gif

I really wish I had the time and patience to find out exactly what about he 990 GD65 issue.. like I had stated before maybe I was spoiled with good boards.. that had minute vdroop.. however after speaking to the rep at MSI i almost think that it is the BIOS .. something just isn't clicking right.. especially when you notice that the FAILED oc warning rarely popsup (only saw it twice) is the GD80 like that as well?
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Interesting Tidbit from AMD's FX processor white paper: See Bold Underline.
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2.5.1.1.2 MinVid and MaxVid Check
Hardware limits the minimum and maximum VID code that is sent to the voltage regulator. The allowed limits
of MinVid and MaxVid are provided in MSRC001_0071. Prior to generating VID-change commands to SVI,
the processor filters the InputVid value to the OutputVid as follows (higher VID codes correspond to lower
voltages and lower VID codes correspond to higher voltages):

• If InputVid < MaxVid, OutputVid=MaxVid.
• Else if (InputVid > MinVid) & (MinVid!=00h), OutputVid=MinVid.
• Else OutputVid=InputVid.
This filtering is applied regardless of the source of the VID-change command.

Sounds like you want a VID that is higher.

My FX8320 does suck. It's VID is 1.35v. I'm gonna have to borrow my other FX8320, it's VID is 1.375v.
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Interesting Tidbit from AMD's FX processor white paper: See Bold Underline.
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2.5.1.1.2 MinVid and MaxVid Check
Hardware limits the minimum and maximum VID code that is sent to the voltage regulator. The allowed limits
of MinVid and MaxVid are provided in MSRC001_0071. Prior to generating VID-change commands to SVI,
the processor filters the InputVid value to the OutputVid as follows (higher VID codes correspond to lower
voltages and lower VID codes correspond to higher voltages):

• If InputVid < MaxVid, OutputVid=MaxVid.
• Else if (InputVid > MinVid) & (MinVid!=00h), OutputVid=MinVid.
• Else OutputVid=InputVid.
This filtering is applied regardless of the source of the VID-change command.

Sounds like you want a VID that is higher.

My FX8320 does suck. It's VID is 1.35v. I'm gonna have to borrow my other FX8320, it's VID is 1.375v.

My 8320 has a VID of 1.35v. My specs in the OP should tell you all you need to know based on that. tongue.gif

Anyway, what batches are the CPUs?
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