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i got 10 run ibt stability at 4.8 but it took 1.524v to do it lol
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I really wish I had the time and patience to find out exactly what about he 990 GD65 issue.. like I had stated before maybe I was spoiled with good boards.. that had minute vdroop.. however after speaking to the rep at MSI i almost think that it is the BIOS .. something just isn't clicking right.. especially when you notice that the FAILED oc warning rarely popsup (only saw it twice) is the GD80 like that as well?
I think the failed overclock warning should happen when it can't boot at the settings in bios and reverts back to a black screen . I use software for most of my overclocking so I don't recall ever having seen that message on the GD80. Other MSI boards I have will allow you to put a set number of restart attempts before it displays that message and asks your input on what to do next.

Flyin 15 sec, It's always been my belief that the lower the vid voltage value , the more capable the chip is of attaining a good overclock.

I am I correct ?
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I really wish I had the time and patience to find out exactly what about he 990 GD65 issue.. like I had stated before maybe I was spoiled with good boards.. that had minute vdroop.. however after speaking to the rep at MSI i almost think that it is the BIOS .. something just isn't clicking right.. especially when you notice that the FAILED oc warning rarely popsup (only saw it twice) is the GD80 like that as well?
I think the failed overclock warning should happen when it can't boot at the settings in bios and reverts back to a black screen . I use software for most of my overclocking so I don't recall ever having seen that message on the GD80. Other MSI boards I have will allow you to put a set number of restart attempts before it displays that message and asks your input on what to do next.

Flyin 15 sec, It's always been my belief that the lower the vid voltage value , the more capable the chip is of attaining a good overclock.

I am I correct ?

Kinda.

High VID (1.375-1.4v) means better temps, but higher voltage. High VID is "best" for light cooling, such as air, but it'll cap early.

Lower VID (1.3-1.325v) means higher temps, lower voltage. Lower vid is "best" for LN2 basically. Anything that can deal with the heat it's going to put out.

Medium VID (1.325-1.375) is, well, medium. Best chips for water cooling.

Or so it was for Bulldozer from what I've read. Voltages adjusted for Piledriver, but same concept.
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something isn't adding up here.. either my socket has crazy air flow.. or im insane.. my core temps are reading higher than my socket temp.. and I don't think reseating will make a difference.. as my cooler bolts on rather than a clip... any ideas? Socket is reading about 15c colder than core

well i will have to try reseating later. for now I hav a gaming profile at 4.8 (its not IBT stable as I don't need it to and it stays under 62c core when gaming) If I had better cooling I bet I could hit 5.1 fully stable..
Edited by F3ERS 2 ASH3S - 12/13/12 at 8:35pm
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Makes sense to me Kyad. So with a vid of 1.28 I need a pot and some LN2 biggrin.gif
I should compare the VID's of my 960 T's . One unlocks and runs @ 4.6 Ghz on 1.424 volts as an X6 , the other won't unlock ( on a different board however) and needs about 1.48 volts to run in the 4.5 ghz range as an X4.
The 965's I have it isnt a fair comparison because one is C2 with a VID of 1.424 and tops out at about 4.15 Ghz on 1.5+ volts - the other is a C-3 and will run some benches at 4.4ghz on its stock vid of 1.32 volts .
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Flyin 15 sec, It's always been my belief that the lower the vid voltage value , the more capable the chip is of attaining a good overclock.
I am I correct ?

That has always been the case with Intel CPUs. However, I believe for Piledriver, and base on the whitepaper, you will want a high VID, simply put, a high VID means there's more of a chance the CPU will use the minVID. This would then translate across the board as you increase frequency.


Example 1: [inputVID= 1.35v] , [maxVID=1.40v] [minVID=1.375v]
Filter statements:
• If InputVid < MaxVid, OutputVid=MaxVid.
• Else if (InputVid > MinVid) & (MinVid!=00h), OutputVid=MinVid.
• Else OutputVid=InputVid.

1.35v<1.40v = 1.4v , my VRM would supply 1.40v to the CPU since the first statement is true.

Example 2: [inputVID= 1.4125v] [maxVID=1.40v] [minVID=1.375v]
First filter is skipped because it is not a true statement, so it goes to the second filter:
1.4125v > 1.375v = 1.375v , VRM would supply 1.375v to the CPU


This is just my belief, smile.gif
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O.M.G. I think I finally figured out why I was hard locking in the only game I play right now, thus deeming my chip or board bad. THIS was the answer: http://www.overclock.net/t/996785/solution-workaround-battlefield-bad-company-2-locking-up-freezing-crashing

More specifically http://www.overclock.net/t/996785/solution-workaround-battlefield-bad-company-2-locking-up-freezing-crashing/40#post_16277403.

When I installed the new chip I started using Afterburner again and other software monitoring options. I didnt use them with the Phenom 2 as it was stabled. I disabled "Enable low-level hardware access interface" in the Afterburner settings and just played BFBC 2 for 1.5 hours without locking!

I have a Crosshair V and new ram coming tomorrow. If I can continue to run stable I will probably just return to Amazon.
post #5498 of 67028
Yep looks like I got a dude chip with my 8320. I tried other stress tests and double checked all my settings in bios and it still fails hard even at 4.4Ghz @ 1.54V under load. sonofa
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Yep looks like I got a dude chip with my 8320. I tried other stress tests and double checked all my settings in bios and it still fails hard even at 4.4Ghz @ 1.54V under load. sonofa

Have you tried lowering voltage while keeping your clocks where they are?
I'd bet it will run at 4.4GHz with less than 1.50v's used, no prob. I know this one is a smaller CPU (4300) but the architecture is basically the same.
If this one can top 4.5GHz with less than 1.50v's used, yours should do OK and really can't hurt to try it and see if your stability problems aren't heat related somehow.

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Have you tried lowering voltage while keeping your clocks where they are?
I'd bet it will run at 4.4GHz with less than 1.50v's used, no prob. I know this one is a smaller CPU (4300) but the architecture is basically the same.
If this one can top 4.5GHz with less than 1.50v's used, yours should do OK and really can't hurt to try it and see if your stability problems aren't heat related somehow.
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