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I know he had a ton of data on this subject but I havnt looked into it. I use my rig heavily for after effects, photoshop, GTA V, CODMW, transcoding, and converting music ect ect. I runs my 5ghz 2400NB/2600HT 32GB ram 9-9-9-24-T1 24 hr prime stable on a x61 kraken 61* core 59* Socket 48*/50* on avarage. linky please thumb.gif
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I'd love to run my ram at their rated speed. frown.gif
Edited by Deadlyg33k - 1/20/16 at 1:49pm
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I'd love to run my ram at its rated speed. frown.gif

What speed are you running them at. If you have them at 1600 Mhz 9-9-9-24-1T it isnt so bad. Say for example, you buy a second kit of the same brand and type you would have to run them at that same speed and timing because its hard to get the integrated memory control to handle anything higher speed. For example 32 gb of 1600 Mhz will run just fine guarantee, 32gb 1866 might depending on your ram kit, cpu, and luck, 32gb 2133 is harder 2400 is nearly impossible.
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lowering your HT speed with this speed of memory and loose timing will require a much greater difference in core clocks than the mere 10* will allow at the thermal limit. in this situation you'd be praying those CL11 1600mhz stick will do cl 7 or cl8 timings. I don't have that much faith in adata's slower memory. if they were sammies i might not be saying this but.. IIRC adata uses hynix ICs

GPU communication isn't the only thing effect by HT speeds. your multi threaded performance will; be reduced by a margin greater than the margin that is achievable with the temp drop, especially when alot of memory is being used

so despite the extra thermal headroom you are at a lower performance setting than previous, i'm sure CSSorkin will back me up on this as he himself was shocked but the effect of 200mhz boost on the HT in the physics aspect of fire strike, the boost is also likely marked at a larger percentage in sheer API performance which is much more relevant to her work load than a synthetic gaming benchmark

Okay so for idiots like me you're basically saying 4.6GHz at 2600 HT is faster (better) than 4.7GHz at 2200?

Yes

4.6ghz with 2600mhz NB and 2600 HT will be faster than 4.7ghz with 2200mhz nb and 2400mhz HT.

it will also respond with a greater increase in performance when she is ready to tackle working on your memory (for the sake of simplicity, i left this stockish and focused on core to get you familiarized)

As i feel memory over clocking and Bus over clocking is considered to be a more advanced (or difficult way whichever you want to read) than simple multi manipulation.
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I know he had a ton of data on this subject but I havnt looked into it. I use my rig heavily for after effects, photoshop, GTA V, CODMW, transcoding, and converting music ect ect. I runs my 5ghz 2400NB/2600HT 32GB ram 9-9-9-24-T1 24 hr prime stable on a x61 kraken 61* core 59* Socket 48*/50* on avarage. linky please thumb.gif

http://www.overclock.net/t/1586825/in-depth-look-at-3dmarks-dx11-api-overhead-test-suite-featuring-amd-fx-8370-e-with-comparisons-to-firestrike-core-speed-mem-speed-north-bridge-speed-hypertransport-speed-tested/0_100

on a side not I really really should have made that title smaller.

Faster NB will help in games, as it shows a more marked single thread improvement in my testing data.

keep in mind i've not finish all tests, so not all the data i'm referring to has been posted yet (illness and IRL work has gotten in the way since the holiday ended)

right now i'm working on finding some good spots in crysis 3 and vanilla FO4 that are consistent ish enough to run many runs of benchmarks thru without minor deviation from pathing (like not following the exact same pixel line) as i'm kinda burnt out on the 3dmark synthetics as i've got to re do a few tests for erroneous result resulting from gsync being turned on (i've still got no clue why this effect the score)
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I'd love to run my ram at its rated speed. frown.gif

What speed are you running them at. If you have them at 1600 Mhz 9-9-9-24-1T it isnt so bad. Say for example, you buy a second kit of the same brand and type you would have to run them at that same speed and timing because its hard to get the integrated memory control to handle anything higher speed. For example 32 gb of 1600 Mhz will run just fine guarantee, 32gb 1866 might depending on your ram kit, cpu, and luck, 32gb 2133 is harder 2400 is nearly impossible.

1600mhz 11-11-11-28-31 iirc and likely with those timings its got a T2 rating.
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1600mhz 11-11-11-28-31 iirc and likely with those timings its got a T2 rating.

Gah what would be the point of 2600Mhz cpu/nb at CL 11 1600 mhz 2T, not to mention 2600 cpu/nb is not easy and then you have to factor in the quality of the chips silicon.
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What speed are you running them at. If you have them at 1600 Mhz 9-9-9-24-1T it isnt so bad. Say for example, you buy a second kit of the same brand and type you would have to run them at that same speed and timing because its hard to get the integrated memory control to handle anything higher speed. For example 32 gb of 1600 Mhz will run just fine guarantee, 32gb 1866 might depending on your ram kit, cpu, and luck, 32gb 2133 is harder 2400 is nearly impossible.

I haven't touched them.

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I haven't touched them.


That's holding you back run them at 9-9-9-24-1T it will not hurt your temps.
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That's holding you back run them at 9-9-9-24-1T it will not hurt your temps.

Okay so let's simplify; I'm going to tighten my timings and set my HT back to 2600, but I'm leaving my NB speed at 2200? Or raising that? I'm holding to 4.6GHz, it's a perfectly even number and it was my goal so I'm just interested now in squeezing as much out of this current stable setup. biggrin.gif
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I haven't touched them.


That's holding you back run them at 9-9-9-24-1T it will not hurt your temps.

those stick will not run those timings at 1.5v.

those sticks will need a massive increase in voltage and increase a tempurate THAT CANNOT BE MONITORED without a FLIR or a temp probe which i'm willing to be she has neither.

not to mention the insane amount of time it would take for hci memtest to verify stability.

when someone is newish to over clocking in general, its is a REALLY REALLY good idea to tell them how to check stability on the part you are telling them to modifiy settings on.

IBT and Prime are not designed to test for that. you NEED to use something that is designed to test and stress memory alone.

faster NB and HT can be monitored and kept in check. yes tightening up the ram will provide better performance. that is something better left to her disgression when she is more comfortable with the chip.

and willing to accept the greater risk involved (due to lack of monitoring) {keep in mind we are dealing with quite obviously LOW binned ram, this is not an insult to the ram it will do what tis advertize to do, but its very very rare for low bin ICS to be able to OC worth anything, and yes i consider tightening timings over clocking, kuz if you do it right you get better performance.
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