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i leave for a few days and 650 posts !! dear god, and so much misinformation

wall o text warnings
do you really want me to count my fans >?

it doesnt hurt,

current capability is just that if your system doesnt need more amps, you dont get any more
it just allows you to have more current if needed
well, every oc guide for any vishera recommends it, as well as my experience and COUNTLESS others from this forum, it does help, i have adj JUST the nb and it stabilized my oc,
no it doesnt, EC can affect Benchmarks but in all the time i have used asus, which is extensive never had any issues
excuse me, i had the 3930k far longer then the 4970k !
it is true, just ask his her wife on who wears the pants !
fixed for you
i love swftech, but there are alot of stuff that is good, just depends on needs, my best advice is get what appeals to your taste
just a fyi he likes to use false info in his vids

dont forget perf pcs !

also highly recommend aquaero !
my complaint, they sell barrow

Well see the thing is, you would have been here you would have solved all issues just as swift as you just responded.
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I wouldn't suggest PETG or acrylic for a first loop build. this is a recipe for frustration.

TBH, sorting out rigid over soft tubing is an easier task.

Looks favor rigid too. And Plasticizer?

Fear of leak is the primary reason people sway away from watercooling. Aside that, it's not rocket science nor as harmful as ISIS kids playing with explosives. tongue.gif

PETG is cheap and easy to work with. Acrylic is on another level. But the idea is, you will end up with a better loop.

I didn't say no to soft tubing did I?
post #57523 of 67277
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I wouldn't suggest PETG or acrylic for a first loop build. this is a recipe for frustration.

TBH, sorting out rigid over soft tubing is an easier task.

Looks favor rigid too. And Plasticizer?

Fear of leak is the primary reason people sway away from watercooling. Aside that, it's not rocket science nor as harmful as ISIS kids playing with explosives. tongue.gif

PETG is cheap and easy to work with. Acrylic is on another level. But the idea is, you will end up with a better loop.

I didn't say no to soft tubing did I?

I like soft tubing for the crazy waterslide look lol
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my problem with hard lines is the cost, i know what it costs to make, and i am a cheap bastard !, i am not against people making profit, but i am more for me keeping mine !

dealing with alot, esp with the baby and family health issues - but soon i should have some news, we shall see
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I wouldn't suggest PETG or acrylic for a first loop build. this is a recipe for frustration.

TBH, sorting out rigid over soft tubing is an easier task.

Looks favor rigid too. And Plasticizer?

Fear of leak is the primary reason people sway away from watercooling. Aside that, it's not rocket science nor as harmful as ISIS kids playing with explosives. tongue.gif

PETG is cheap and easy to work with. Acrylic is on another level. But the idea is, you will end up with a better loop.

I didn't say no to soft tubing did I?

1. unless you are doing pure straight runs no it isn't easier.

2. what is easier to get a kink or a bowe out of , a water hose or a 2x4

3. who cares about Plasticizer when you are learning to build a custom loop. its not like the tubes need to be replaced every week.. rolleyes.gif

4. Its a first time, screw ups are going to happen, Cept when you screw up with rigid you risk starting a fire..

5. rigid Tubing kinks. there does a whole cut that you know either have to salvage without breaking or toss it. soft tubing you can straighten out. not to mention the speed in which you are back to work after rectifying a cutting mistake.

I'm not saying soft tubing is better. but to learn on, also considering that things are going to move. First time go soft tubing, when you've got an idea (and in the case of DG here we are talkin in terms of a few days) she can start planning for something a little more permanent, and very slightly less maintenance heavy.

Plus i don't Trust customs not to shatter them.
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I wouldn't suggest PETG or acrylic for a first loop build. this is a recipe for frustration.

TBH, sorting out rigid over soft tubing is an easier task.

Looks favor rigid too. And Plasticizer?

Fear of leak is the primary reason people sway away from watercooling. Aside that, it's not rocket science nor as harmful as ISIS kids playing with explosives. tongue.gif

PETG is cheap and easy to work with. Acrylic is on another level. But the idea is, you will end up with a better loop.

I didn't say no to soft tubing did I?

1. unless you are doing pure straight runs no it isn't easier.

2. what is easier to get a kink or a bowe out of , a water hose or a 2x4

3. who cares about Plasticizer when you are learning to build a custom loop. its not like the tubes need to be replaced every week.. rolleyes.gif

4. Its a first time, screw ups are going to happen, Cept when you screw up with rigid you risk starting a fire..

5. rigid Tubing kinks. there does a whole cut that you know either have to salvage without breaking or toss it. soft tubing you can straighten out. not to mention the speed in which you are back to work after rectifying a cutting mistake.

I'm not saying soft tubing is better. but to learn on, also considering that things are going to move. First time go soft tubing, when you've got an idea (and in the case of DG here we are talkin in terms of a few days) she can start planning for something a little more permanent, and very slightly less maintenance heavy.

Plus i don't Trust customs not to shatter them.

My custom loop has been doing fine for 2 years and a cleanout with 4 moves and
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The reason I mentioned PETG tbh is due to:

There are three kinds of people who are into watercooling. Those who need the cooling, some flaunts them, and those in between.

But seriously, when you start off soft and realize you fall into the 2nd group of people who wants to show up their watercooling,you will realuze that rigid is the way to. Then your fittings, will be waste investment. smile.gif

Other than that, I have nothing against soft tubing like you have the cons against rigid. biggrin.gif
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mus1mus.. i need to go find me some perspective to smack you with.

you forgot a group.. the experimentation group.

waste of money can also be risked if she cannot manage a pipe bend without a kink. it goes both ways

back to the perspective.

She doesn't need it for the cooling(therefore doesn't need it for performance), I doubt she needs it for the Bling factor.
It is something her Deployed Hubby enjoys that she has taken a liking too.

for soft tubing you need scissors essentially, for hard tubing you need the heat gun, the insert, the saw or pipe cutter, and a de-berrer, and alot more patiences

I'm not knocking rigid tube anyway, my first custom loop will be rigid piping of some kind, but then again i learned pipe bending in school so its not exactly new to me.


as a new person figuring out how to do this, how much tubing do you buy and how much do you over compensate for mistake or accidents?
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The reason I mentioned PETG tbh is due to:

There are three kinds of people who are into watercooling. Those who need the cooling, some flaunts them, and those in between.

But seriously, when you start off soft and realize you fall into the 2nd group of people who wants to show up their watercooling,you will realuze that rigid is the way to. Then your fittings, will be waste investment. smile.gif

Other than that, I have nothing against soft tubing like you have the cons against rigid. biggrin.gif
You know. I feel I fall into the third category. I like to have a good looking but functional loop. But I can't deal with the hassle of rigid tubing. Especially if need to do trouble shooting. And I feel I did pretty good with my first attempt.


And I think my second attempt will be even better. Almost done with it. Just finishing the PSU cover and waiting for a PSU.

I think the key with a soft tubing loop is to make sure you don't have tubes crossing over one another and having lots of bends. You know you want to have nice long runs that just like a rigid loop have either nice straight sections and when it comes to bends nice flowing bends.
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mus1mus..

as a new person figuring out how to do this, how much tubing do you buy and how much do you over compensate for mistake or accidents?

Do you want an honest answer or my opinion?

I still have 5 tubes left of the 10 tubes of 30-inch lengths I bought sometime 2014. That's after a handful of rebuilds.

But to answer your question directly. Give it a tube for bending practice.

PETG is cheaper and more durable than acrylic. You can rebend the thing for several cycles too. I would recommend it for first time benders. Really.
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