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intel has gotten more aggressive with it price. A locked 4 core Haswell (i5) is in the 8350 range, plus you don't need a hefty board and top notch cooling to run it. Not as much fun as tinkering with a 8 core FX and cheaper over all. NOT the same story when I got my 9590 ($240) a unlocked i5 was $60 more and a locked i7 was $40 more than that. The thing I figured was I could always use the water on the next big thing.

wouldn't say aggressive, slightly more sense able.

the Price point of sky-lake quad parts makes me think that Intel might be concerned with what might be around the corner with Zen (this is slightly Tinfoil hat-ish, but with them losing some profit margins in CPU chips already) < mostly due to lack of innovation and competition

they might not know what to expect with this unified platform.

IMHO using a 9590 price point, is kinda silly. with the existence of the E chips they just don't have the value. everything you'd need to keep a 9370 or 9590 @ 5ghz is more than what you would need to keep a 8370 @ 5ghz

if you are looking to run stock intended speed, you likely won't notice the differnce

one thing i will say is that sky-lake isn't stopping FX's from being sold, they have been selling pretty consistently since the release of the E variation.

considering Excavator JUST drop on FM2+. This just seems like a safe move from intel... i wonder if it can be over clocked by much?

Agreed on both points, the 9590 was and always will be an enthusiast part but to get an 8350/8370 to those levels obviously requires overclocking and not everyone is willing to do that for whichever reason.

I might try and grab an Excavator chip when they release here and see what it's capable of but I'm not expecting anything great smile.gif
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Not to mention the 8300 and the 8320E lower priced chips that pretty much OC to 4.7GHz fairly easy.
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intel has gotten more aggressive with it price. A locked 4 core Haswell (i5) is in the 8350 range, plus you don't need a hefty board and top notch cooling to run it. Not as much fun as tinkering with a 8 core FX and cheaper over all. NOT the same story when I got my 9590 ($240) a unlocked i5 was $60 more and a locked i7 was $40 more than that. The thing I figured was I could always use the water on the next big thing.

wouldn't say aggressive, slightly more sense able.

the Price point of sky-lake quad parts makes me think that Intel might be concerned with what might be around the corner with Zen (this is slightly Tinfoil hat-ish, but with them losing some profit margins in CPU chips already) < mostly due to lack of innovation and competition

they might not know what to expect with this unified platform.

IMHO using a 9590 price point, is kinda silly. with the existence of the E chips they just don't have the value. everything you'd need to keep a 9370 or 9590 @ 5ghz is more than what you would need to keep a 8370 @ 5ghz

if you are looking to run stock intended speed, you likely won't notice the differnce

one thing i will say is that sky-lake isn't stopping FX's from being sold, they have been selling pretty consistently since the release of the E variation.

considering Excavator JUST drop on FM2+. This just seems like a safe move from intel... i wonder if it can be over clocked by much?

Agreed on both points, the 9590 was and always will be an enthusiast part but to get an 8350/8370 to those levels obviously requires overclocking and not everyone is willing to do that for whichever reason.

I might try and grab an Excavator chip when they release here and see what it's capable of but I'm not expecting anything great smile.gif

Its peaked my interest.. I kinda want one. SR as a uarch was a noticeable boost clock for clock, EX supposedly take it a little further.

other questions exist tho.. is this the same igpu that is in Kaveri? Why limited to pcie 3.0 8x etc.
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intel has gotten more aggressive with it price. A locked 4 core Haswell (i5) is in the 8350 range, plus you don't need a hefty board and top notch cooling to run it. Not as much fun as tinkering with a 8 core FX and cheaper over all. NOT the same story when I got my 9590 ($240) a unlocked i5 was $60 more and a locked i7 was $40 more than that. The thing I figured was I could always use the water on the next big thing.

wouldn't say aggressive, slightly more sense able.

the Price point of sky-lake quad parts makes me think that Intel might be concerned with what might be around the corner with Zen (this is slightly Tinfoil hat-ish, but with them losing some profit margins in CPU chips already) < mostly due to lack of innovation and competition

they might not know what to expect with this unified platform.

IMHO using a 9590 price point, is kinda silly. with the existence of the E chips they just don't have the value. everything you'd need to keep a 9370 or 9590 @ 5ghz is more than what you would need to keep a 8370 @ 5ghz

if you are looking to run stock intended speed, you likely won't notice the differnce

one thing i will say is that sky-lake isn't stopping FX's from being sold, they have been selling pretty consistently since the release of the E variation.

considering Excavator JUST drop on FM2+. This just seems like a safe move from intel... i wonder if it can be over clocked by much?

Agreed on both points, the 9590 was and always will be an enthusiast part but to get an 8350/8370 to those levels obviously requires overclocking and not everyone is willing to do that for whichever reason.

I might try and grab an Excavator chip when they release here and see what it's capable of but I'm not expecting anything great smile.gif

Its peaked my interest.. I kinda want one. SR as a uarch was a noticeable boost clock for clock, EX supposedly take it a little further.

other questions exist tho.. is this the same igpu that is in Kaveri? Why limited to pcie 3.0 8x etc.

Well there hasn't been any EX arch APU's announced as yet, just the Athlon which is traditionally a CPU only so I wouldn't expect any EX chips with an iGPU

Reason it's limited to x8 PCIe is because they are technically mobile chips just with the iGPU disabled and with it being Multi-locked it'd make a great HTPC chip for it's price point.

I'm interested in it because that'll give me some numbers that i can use to estimate where Zen might land in performance terms wink.gif
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If it goes anything like the Godavari core the OC was terrible compared to previous gens
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If it goes anything like the Godavari core the OC was terrible compared to previous gens

Found out recently that the 7870k is a Kaveri Refresh and Godaveri is is the 7860k which is just efficiency but i get what you mean, they are a pain to get to and over 5.0 and the IPC gains couldn't make up for the small OC potential redface.gif
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Yeah not sure what AMD did but they lost their biggest feature on that one. (OC Headroom) is what I mean
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Got my new memory kit installed biggrin.gif



It looks very nice, it fits the red theme i have in my build now. Unfortunately the motherboard doesn't support 2400 MHz so its operating at 2133 MHz now. Its okay tho, there is not much difference in it anyways.
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come on, i thought the g1 was AMAZING ! 2133 onry?
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I am glad i can get 2133 MHz with an 16 GB kit to be honest. I've heard that some people can only get 1866 MHz with 16 GB kit.

This board is very good, better than the Sabertooth to be honest. I can get the same clock speed at a lower voltage. I don't know how long it will last but i hope longer than the Sabertooth, that board died on me shortly after a year.. and that was the second board that gone bad within 2 years.. I bought these parts from a different retail store and there were more people complaining about Asus boards that gone bad within a year, Intel and AMD boards to be precise.

M.2 SSD is amazing and fast, i only need to learn how to properly set it up on my motherboard and configuring Windows 10.
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