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Yeah not sure what AMD did but they lost their biggest feature on that one. (OC Headroom) is what I mean
The 28nm node they're using is a low power one and the chip is tuned for low power consumption?

The Stilt seemed to suggest that Zen may be hamstrung by low power process, in terms of clocks. I hope that turns out to not be the case.
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This board is very good, better than the Sabertooth to be honest.
I doubt that, in terms of the power delivery quality. Does any Gigabyte AM3+ board have 8 true CPU phases?
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Yes its truly 8+2 phase.. its the same 8+2 as on the UD5 i also owned and it was a great board.

Its not all about clock speed though, this board has a better audio, better layout, M.2, it looks also better, better warranty etc. etc.

Yes the Sabertooth was an awesome overclocking board but that's about it. As for every day usage i prefer my Gigabyte board over the Asus.
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Yes its truly 8+2 phase.. its the same 8+2 as on the UD5 i also owned and it was a great board.
Good to know. I thought it was yet another UD3P 2.0 VRM system (4 with doubler).

The heatsink is probably poor in comparison with the ASUS board. What do you think?

edit: I just looked at a picture again and it's the same heatsink used on the UD3P (although with a NB heatpipe). That's not impressive at all. The only way I'd get this board is if I planned to add a custom block for watercooling the VRMs.
Edited by superstition222 - 2/4/16 at 12:20pm
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Good to know. I thought it was yet another UD3P 2.0 VRM system (4 with doubler).

The heatsink is probably poor in comparison with the ASUS board. What do you think?

The heat sinks are better than on the Sabertooth to be honest.. the heat transfer is better because on the Asus board they are too large and too bulky, on the G1 board they are thinner and can transfer heat better. Especially when i have 2 90 mm fans blowing on them.

Now i can actually measure my vrm temps, on the Sabertooth i wasn't able to do that without getting weird problems. This motherboard is actually running cooler at the same clocks. I am running my CPU/NB at 2600 on this board as well and its running much cooler than on the Asus due to better vrm heat sinks.
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I remember reading from a reputable source that AMD has confirmed that the Igpu and something else is disabled. and that the actual die size differs by ~4-~5mm2 that this Athlon chip is slightly larger than the laptop carrizo chips (at least according to the same source, i should really go find that artical and link it.. I wanna say it was anand tech but again not sure looked at many articles LOL)

and now that the laptop aspect was brought up, I think this one is a LONNG shot but if these were laptop 28nm chips, they would be the 9590 variant of that sku competitively speaking. If this is the case i doubt we will see any more unlocked Athlons until AM4 (that feature EX anyway)

HOWEVER, If these are Failed Bristol Ridge parts Based on failures in the DDR4 controller, and/OR the BR igpu section. we could be looking at a K variant between now and q3. I am hoping this is the case.

we need to get EX to and beyond 4ghz to really test it IMHO. lets just hope 14nm is a little more fun to toy with than 28nm

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If it goes anything like the Godavari core the OC was terrible compared to previous gens

I expected Godavari to have the same 4.5/4.6 limit that kaveri did. (i've yet too see stable proof over 4.6)

EX cores, same weak node..

i really wish the just pushed SR and EX on 32nm for FX.. now that would have been two chips to talk about.
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If it goes anything like the Godavari core the OC was terrible compared to previous gens

Found out recently that the 7870k is a Kaveri Refresh and Godaveri is is the 7860k which is just efficiency but i get what you mean, they are a pain to get to and over 5.0 and the IPC gains couldn't make up for the small OC potential redface.gif

isn't kaveri/godavari the same thing essentially? just a more mature process. Same node, same transistors.
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I have an old 2009 amd phenom II x4 940 Black Edition but I want to buy a new amd prossesador because I like amd but at this point I do not know if I should buy a am3 + fx-8370e or wait for the new Zen ?
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I am glad i can get 2133 MHz with an 16 GB kit to be honest. I've heard that some people can only get 1866 MHz with 16 GB kit.

This board is very good, better than the Sabertooth to be honest. I can get the same clock speed at a lower voltage. I don't know how long it will last but i hope longer than the Sabertooth, that board died on me shortly after a year.. and that was the second board that gone bad within 2 years.. I bought these parts from a different retail store and there were more people complaining about Asus boards that gone bad within a year, Intel and AMD boards to be precise.

M.2 SSD is amazing and fast, i only need to learn how to properly set it up on my motherboard and configuring Windows 10.

That's funny, I guess I just got really lucky. My Sabertooth is my daily board now for 2 years in my HTPC. It's on everyday. Before that I benched on it, till I bought my Cross hairs. Even though one is dead now,one is maimed and the other is fine That wasn't the boards fault . They can only take so much abuse.

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I remember reading from a reputable source that AMD has confirmed that the Igpu and something else is disabled. and that the actual die size differs by ~4-~5mm2 that this Athlon chip is slightly larger than the laptop carrizo chips (at least according to the same source, i should really go find that artical and link it.. I wanna say it was anand tech but again not sure looked at many articles LOL)

and now that the laptop aspect was brought up, I think this one is a LONNG shot but if these were laptop 28nm chips, they would be the 9590 variant of that sku competitively speaking. If this is the case i doubt we will see any more unlocked Athlons until AM4 (that feature EX anyway)

HOWEVER, If these are Failed Bristol Ridge parts Based on failures in the DDR4 controller, and/OR the BR igpu section. we could be looking at a K variant between now and q3. I am hoping this is the case.

we need to get EX to and beyond 4ghz to really test it IMHO. lets just hope 14nm is a little more fun to toy with than 28nm

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Originally Posted by Johan45 View Post

If it goes anything like the Godavari core the OC was terrible compared to previous gens

I expected Godavari to have the same 4.5/4.6 limit that kaveri did. (i've yet too see stable proof over 4.6)

EX cores, same weak node..

i really wish the just pushed SR and EX on 32nm for FX.. now that would have been two chips to talk about.
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Originally Posted by Johan45 View Post

If it goes anything like the Godavari core the OC was terrible compared to previous gens

Found out recently that the 7870k is a Kaveri Refresh and Godaveri is is the 7860k which is just efficiency but i get what you mean, they are a pain to get to and over 5.0 and the IPC gains couldn't make up for the small OC potential redface.gif

isn't kaveri/godavari the same thing essentially? just a more mature process. Same node, same transistors.

Yes flail same die. Steamroller core. Carizzo/excavator is the last before Zen and I too am skeptical as was mentioned about any OC headroom. I have a 7870K and it's like trying to pull a mule out of quicksand compared to an FX IIRC at stock the voltage was 1.4v maybe more been a while.
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I have an old 2009 amd phenom II x4 940 Black Edition but I want to buy a new amd prossesador because I like amd but at this point I do not know if I should buy a am3 + fx-8370e or wait for the new Zen ?
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I have an old 2009 amd phenom II x4 940 Black Edition but I want to buy a new amd prossesador because I like amd but at this point I do not know if I should buy a am3 + fx-8370e or wait for the new Zen ?

If you only upgrade every 6 years or so, I'd wait to see what Zen has to offer. Still have a soft spot in my heart for my 940 smile.gif
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