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I am glad i can get 2133 MHz with an 16 GB kit to be honest. I've heard that some people can only get 1866 MHz with 16 GB kit.

This board is very good, better than the Sabertooth to be honest. I can get the same clock speed at a lower voltage. I don't know how long it will last but i hope longer than the Sabertooth, that board died on me shortly after a year.. and that was the second board that gone bad within 2 years.. I bought these parts from a different retail store and there were more people complaining about Asus boards that gone bad within a year, Intel and AMD boards to be precise.

M.2 SSD is amazing and fast, i only need to learn how to properly set it up on my motherboard and configuring Windows 10.

My kitty will run 2x8GB sticks at 2400 pretty easy.....tried two kits with it.
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I am glad i can get 2133 MHz with an 16 GB kit to be honest. I've heard that some people can only get 1866 MHz with 16 GB kit.

This board is very good, better than the Sabertooth to be honest. I can get the same clock speed at a lower voltage. I don't know how long it will last but i hope longer than the Sabertooth, that board died on me shortly after a year.. and that was the second board that gone bad within 2 years.. I bought these parts from a different retail store and there were more people complaining about Asus boards that gone bad within a year, Intel and AMD boards to be precise.

M.2 SSD is amazing and fast, i only need to learn how to properly set it up on my motherboard and configuring Windows 10.

That's funny, I guess I just got really lucky. My Sabertooth is my daily board now for 2 years in my HTPC. It's on everyday. Before that I benched on it, till I bought my Cross hairs. Even though one is dead now,one is maimed and the other is fine That wasn't the boards fault . They can only take so much abuse.

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I remember reading from a reputable source that AMD has confirmed that the Igpu and something else is disabled. and that the actual die size differs by ~4-~5mm2 that this Athlon chip is slightly larger than the laptop carrizo chips (at least according to the same source, i should really go find that artical and link it.. I wanna say it was anand tech but again not sure looked at many articles LOL)

and now that the laptop aspect was brought up, I think this one is a LONNG shot but if these were laptop 28nm chips, they would be the 9590 variant of that sku competitively speaking. If this is the case i doubt we will see any more unlocked Athlons until AM4 (that feature EX anyway)

HOWEVER, If these are Failed Bristol Ridge parts Based on failures in the DDR4 controller, and/OR the BR igpu section. we could be looking at a K variant between now and q3. I am hoping this is the case.

we need to get EX to and beyond 4ghz to really test it IMHO. lets just hope 14nm is a little more fun to toy with than 28nm

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If it goes anything like the Godavari core the OC was terrible compared to previous gens

I expected Godavari to have the same 4.5/4.6 limit that kaveri did. (i've yet too see stable proof over 4.6)

EX cores, same weak node..

i really wish the just pushed SR and EX on 32nm for FX.. now that would have been two chips to talk about.
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If it goes anything like the Godavari core the OC was terrible compared to previous gens

Found out recently that the 7870k is a Kaveri Refresh and Godaveri is is the 7860k which is just efficiency but i get what you mean, they are a pain to get to and over 5.0 and the IPC gains couldn't make up for the small OC potential redface.gif

isn't kaveri/godavari the same thing essentially? just a more mature process. Same node, same transistors.

Yes flail same die. Steamroller core. Carizzo/excavator is the last before Zen and I too am skeptical as was mentioned about any OC headroom. I have a 7870K and it's like trying to pull a mule out of quicksand compared to an FX IIRC at stock the voltage was 1.4v maybe more been a while.

What he said ^
 
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I solved the main issue with the temp disagreement. For some reason SIV is giving me the VRM temps labeled "CPU Temp 1" and "CPU Temp 2". The actual CPU temp is "T2 CPU".

So, it's no wonder I was getting crazy high temps with SIV.

The other good news is that now that I got the air out of my loop my temperatures are more reasonable. The VRM temps are still too high, though. I think I may take The Stilt's suggestion and either change the thermal pad or replace it with TIM.

Another oddity, though, is that SIV was reporting my CPU speed wrong until I saved my BIOS again. I wonder if my BIOS battery is getting too weak to be reliable. It's particularly odd since HWINFO was reporting the correct CPU speed.
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@mus1mus

I think you should check your HWinfo hidden settings.



there is more than one read out for Vcore... one is accurate one is not.

can you guess which one reads within margin of error to a physically polled voltage (dmm)?
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I have sensors on my Giga board that i never seen before..



Temp 1 t/m 6 i have no idea and VR T1 and 2 are the vrm's i think.when i run 10 passes of IBT AVX at 4.8 GHz and 2600 MHz CPU/NB at 1.325 volts they only get 55c, much cooler than on the Sabertooth board. I saw temps in the 70s when i was testing at the same voltages. The heat sinks on the Giga are hotter on the touch because the heat transfer is better i think.
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I have sensors on my Giga board that i never seen before..


Temp 1 t/m 6 i have no idea and VR T1 and 2 are the vrm's i think.when i run 10 passes of IBT AVX at 4.8 GHz and 2600 MHz CPU/NB at 1.325 volts they only get 55c, much cooler than on the Sabertooth board. I saw temps in the 70s when i was testing at the same voltages. The heat sinks on the Giga are hotter on the touch because the heat transfer is better i think.

Come on.

It won't heat up to 70C at 1.35V Are you doped again today ?

If you say, 1.55 then yeah.
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Come on.

It won't heat up to 70C at 1.35V Are you doped again today ?

If you say, 1.55 then yeah.

lol, no i am not doped, just as doped as you are.

I am realistic, the vrm's get hot on the Sabertooth compared to my Giga board. Had the same thing on the UD5. The Sabertooth is known to run hot due to its many power delivery settings and poor heat sink design.

I tested this at first on the touch and later i actually measured it. If i can find some screenshots i am more than happy to share it.
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Come on.

It won't heat up to 70C at 1.35V Are you doped again today ?

If you say, 1.55 then yeah.

lol, no i am not doped, just as doped as you are.

I am realistic, the vrm's get hot on the Sabertooth compared to my Giga board. Had the same thing on the UD5. The Sabertooth is known to run hot due to its many power delivery settings and poor heat sink design.

I tested this at first on the touch and later i actually measured it. If i can find some screenshots i am more than happy to share it.

Throw up some screencaps, only time i hit 55c on my vrms on any board at that voltage was my CVF-Z with a motherboard block rolleyes.gif

if you're assuming that the Vrm T1&2 are your vrm temps then that would mean at idle my vrms are a lower temp than yours (Vcore: 1.500v, CPU/NB: 1.400v, NB HT: 1.319v, NB: 1.113v) and I did an IBT run and got 73c (Vcore1) + 67c (Vcore2)

No screencaps from me, net is being crappy today

EDIT: Also note that if Giga are using their newer vrms then they run way way cooler than the ones they used to use, it's not the heat transfer or "poor heatsink design" it's the vrms themselves that run cooler wink.gif
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Come on.

It won't heat up to 70C at 1.35V Are you doped again today ?

If you say, 1.55 then yeah.

lol, no i am not doped, just as doped as you are.

I am realistic, the vrm's get hot on the Sabertooth compared to my Giga board. Had the same thing on the UD5. The Sabertooth is known to run hot due to its many power delivery settings and poor heat sink design.

I tested this at first on the touch and later i actually measured it. If i can find some screenshots i am more than happy to share it.
dear god i cant take this ANYMORE. the kitty heatsink is far superior to ANY gigabyte has,

basic thermal properties MORE surface area MORE thermal transfer

you keep assuming because YOU say something it is true, it isnt, the sabertooth is FAR superior to ANY am3+ giga board, old or new.


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Come on.

It won't heat up to 70C at 1.35V Are you doped again today ?

If you say, 1.55 then yeah.

lol, no i am not doped, just as doped as you are.

I am realistic, the vrm's get hot on the Sabertooth compared to my Giga board. Had the same thing on the UD5. The Sabertooth is known to run hot due to its many power delivery settings and poor heat sink design.

I tested this at first on the touch and later i actually measured it. If i can find some screenshots i am more than happy to share it.

Throw up some screencaps, only time i hit 55c on my vrms on any board at that voltage was my CVF-Z with a motherboard block rolleyes.gif

if you're assuming that the Vrm T1&2 are your vrm temps then that would mean at idle my vrms are a lower temp than yours (Vcore: 1.500v, CPU/NB: 1.400v, NB HT: 1.319v, NB: 1.113v) and I did an IBT run and got 73c (Vcore1) + 67c (Vcore2)

No screencaps from me, net is being crappy today

EDIT: Also note that if Giga are using their newer vrms then they run way way cooler than the ones they used to use, it's not the heat transfer or "poor heatsink design" it's the vrms themselves that run cooler wink.gif

as above there are newer VRMS which run cooler, as to why the heatsink is HOTTER then the sabertooth, because of POOR thermal transfer
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dear god i cant take this ANYMORE. the kitty heatsink is far superior to ANY gigabyte has,

basic thermal properties MORE surface area MORE thermal transfer

you keep assuming because YOU say something it is true, it isnt, the sabertooth is FAR superior to ANY am3+ giga board, old or new.
as above there are newer VRMS which run cooler, as to why the heatsink is HOTTER then the sabertooth, because of POOR thermal transfer

I was just wondering how long it would take u to reply to him rolleyes.gif
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FX-8370 asus sabertooth 990fx R9 290 DC2 kingston hyper x beast 1866 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
fractal design kelvin s36 windows 10 pro Acer G245HQ Saitek Cyborg V5 
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EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G2 Corsair Graphite series 780T corsair m90 
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