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Before all the blueness there was talk of new VRMs running cooler and THAT is interesting. How new are these and where are they found? Here are two examples of current tech temps. A GD80 running at 31-32C while the highest I ever caught them running was 46C, and a Sabertooth with good air flow on its VRMs and running at 58-62C with the highest I have seen being 83C.

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Originally Posted by miklkit View Post

Before all the blueness there was talk of new VRMs running cooler and THAT is interesting. How new are these and where are they found? Here are two examples of current tech temps. A GD80 running at 31-32C while the highest I ever caught them running was 46C, and a Sabertooth with good air flow on its VRMs and running at 58-62C with the highest I have seen being 83C.



Interesting indeed. I seen similar temps on my vrm's on the Sabertooth. My Gaming motherboard runs much cooler with 2 fans blowing cool air on them.

Highest i seen was like 62c during IBT AVX, sadly i do not have a screen shot of it but i will try tomorrow if i have some spare time.
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dear god i cant take this ANYMORE. the kitty heatsink is far superior to ANY gigabyte has,

basic thermal properties MORE surface area MORE thermal transfer

you keep assuming because YOU say something it is true, it isnt, the sabertooth is FAR superior to ANY am3+ giga board, old or new.
as above there are newer VRMS which run cooler, as to why the heatsink is HOTTER then the sabertooth, because of POOR thermal transfer

lol that is the most ridiculous thing i ever heard to be honest.. you should know better Mega.

The heat sinks are hotter NOT because of the hotter vrm's but due to the BETTER heat transfer.. seriously, what you just said made no sense at all..

I know this because i can actually measure my vrm temps on this board without any problems unlike the EC sensor on the Sabertooth that doesn't like to be monitored in the first place, but i managed to get some temp reading during stress testing.

You don't even own a new Gigabyte board and i actually owned the Sabertooth and now own the Gigabyte board.. I said the same thing about he UD5 vrm's that were also cooler than on the Sabertooth..

"basic thermal properties MORE surface area MORE thermal transfer" That doesn't make sense at all, what material they are made of is far more important than how thick it is.. as an example, a thinner copper based radiator will cool better than a thicker aluminum radiator its simply science.. I expected more from you Mega, i really do.
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So I went ahead and bought an Corsair Ax860i over evga 850 G2 supernova. I paid $10 more for the corsair. I am seeing a hella lot better performance with a more adequate psu versus the old cx750m. Any thoughts guys I was torn between the 2 and still am. You could call it 2 psu's 1 rail. biggrin.gif
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So I went ahead and bought an Corsair Ax860i over evga 850 G2 supernova. I paid $10 more for the corsair. I am seeing a hella lot better performance with a more adequate psu versus the old cx750m. Any thoughts guys I was torn between the 2 and still am. You could call it 2 psu's 1 rail. biggrin.gif

eh,, which looks better? they are both good Psu and both aare light years better than your old one
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The heat sinks are hotter NOT because of the hotter vrm's but due to the BETTER heat transfer.. seriously, what you just said made no sense at all..

I know this because i can actually measure my vrm temps on this board without any problems unlike the EC sensor on the Sabertooth that doesn't like to be monitored in the first place, but i managed to get some temp reading during stress testing.

"basic thermal properties MORE surface area MORE thermal transfer" That doesn't make sense at all, what material they are made of is far more important than how thick it is.. as an example, a thinner copper based radiator will cool better than a thicker aluminum radiator its simply science.. I expected more from you Mega, i really do.

Ever wonder why you don't see huge copper CPU air coolers? Copper bases maybe, but than aluminum is what transfers the heat to air.
Copper absorbs heat better but aluminum gives it up to air more efficiently. Your comparison with radiators confuses me, H2O dynamics is a different animal. You must use a different science where you're at.

Besides everybody knows Gigabyte VRM and Socket run cooler due to "Double Copper" right? (those who know will giggle) biggrin.gif
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Is I may, this thread used to be quite fun until you joined up Super, or as I like to call you. SS.

I'm so very... very bored of you and your utter tedious posts about crap. You literally got served benchmarks by a real world user and shot it all down for no reason. We literally don't care, you're the equivalent to the guy who stands in the corner jealously sneering at others because they're not you.

Give it a rest, Lighten up, and chill out.
Nice ad hominem rant. How about advising people to overclock their PCI-E to gain performance? biggrin.gif
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It's $290 vs the 6600k which is $250?
Not really. It has been around MSRP for some time at NextWarehouse.
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you don't know why Skylake doesn't have EDRam, unless you can give me concrete proof that Skylake and Z170 can fully support it I'm putting it down to the fact they didn't have it ready when Skylake launched, sounds pretty logical to me
So you're agreeing with me that Skylake was released prematurely because it doesn't offer enough over Broadwell?

OK.

Also, Skylake has an EDRAM controller.
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It's $290 vs the 6600k which is $250?
Not really. It has been around MSRP for some time at NextWarehouse.
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you don't know why Skylake doesn't have EDRam, unless you can give me concrete proof that Skylake and Z170 can fully support it I'm putting it down to the fact they didn't have it ready when Skylake launched, sounds pretty logical to me
So you're agreeing with me that Skylake was released prematurely because it doesn't offer enough over Broadwell?

OK.

Also, Skylake has an EDRAM controller.

6600k = $243

5675c = $277

also, I'm not agreeing with you, you don't need to twist my words to make it that way, just provide some actual proof of what you claim and results will speak for themselves wink.gif
 
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Before all the blueness there was talk of new VRMs running cooler and THAT is interesting. How new are these and where are they found? Here are two examples of current tech temps. A GD80 running at 31-32C while the highest I ever caught them running was 46C, and a Sabertooth with good air flow on its VRMs and running at 58-62C with the highest I have seen being 83C.


Those VRM temperature readings are completely off for both of them. The temperature on MSI "DrMos VRM" appears to come from the Fintek LPC/IO "Motherboard temperature" sensor, which can be located anywhere. The VRM controller on MSI (uP1601P) doesn´t even have feedback for temperature sensors. Also the temperatures for Sabertooth VRM are too low. While the VRM controller on Sabertooth has temperature feedback for both loops (CPU & NB) the data is not available due ASUS proprietary stuff on board. Crosshair V has basically the same VRM and it runs > 80°C with 220W+ load. No VRM delivering 250W+ (as in your case) runs 5-10°C over the ambient, it is just impossible since it dissipates >45W of power at those settings.
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