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Great gamers board - will push an 8 core to what I consider its maximum practical daily overclock for the average user/gamer ( 4.7 ghz ) . I was playing games on it last night at 5.1 ghz, no problems, but I have it on my 480mm loop - caseless- with fans blowing on both sides of the board. - See comments below.
I really like the board . It's very much geared toward the gamer with its nic and sound being better than most out there. I have no idea what kind of Voodoo it has , but the heatsink over the VRMS are nearly room temp during anything I've run up to this point ( has a 120 corsair sp fan directly on it ) . Seems much cooler than my other boards. There are scads of non-believers out there , I think I'll grab the IR gun from work and shoot a video to show people what I am talking about.
It is a better race horse than a work horse however, and people who apply long duration, 100% loads at healthy overclocks would probably be better off with a Saber or CHV-Z. Of the other boards you listed, I don't have any experience with them , so I can't compare them to the 990 gaming.
I've had fluctuations of 20,000 points at the same settings, not sure what causes it - ULPS? Seems to be the first run is the slowest for that segment. I need to play with it a bit more.
Its good to see you have such confidence for the msi board. Thanks
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i really wanna pick up the msi board for playing with, just sounds like fun from what i have seen and heard !
Me too, I'm glad to see cssorkinman having a very good time with it.
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Great gamers board - will push an 8 core to what I consider its maximum practical daily overclock for the average user/gamer ( 4.7 ghz ) . I was playing games on it last night at 5.1 ghz, no problems, but I have it on my 480mm loop - caseless- with fans blowing on both sides of the board. - See comments below.
I really like the board . It's very much geared toward the gamer with its nic and sound being better than most out there. I have no idea what kind of Voodoo it has , but the heatsink over the VRMS are nearly room temp during anything I've run up to this point ( has a 120 corsair sp fan directly on it ) . Seems much cooler than my other boards. There are scads of non-believers out there , I think I'll grab the IR gun from work and shoot a video to show people what I am talking about.
It is a better race horse than a work horse however, and people who apply long duration, 100% loads at healthy overclocks would probably be better off with a Saber or CHV-Z. Of the other boards you listed, I don't have any experience with them , so I can't compare them to the 990 gaming.
I've had fluctuations of 20,000 points at the same settings, not sure what causes it - ULPS? Seems to be the first run is the slowest for that segment. I need to play with it a bit more.

Nice! I was leaning towards the MSI board at first but when i saw that my Gigabyte Gaming motherboard had M.2 i went for the Giga.

It is really much faster than an SSD, programs and games load super fast. If the MSI had an M.2 slot i would probably went for that one because i would like to play with an MSI board and discover myself how good they really are. You were also raving about the GD-80 and so was Miklkit.

The only thing i fail to understand is that when i bench my 950 Pro i get stuck at around 80K IOPS for read and around 70K IOPS write which is obviously not correct. I have no idea what is causing this and i literally tried every setting i can think off in BIOS and Windows and the scores went up a bit but is still out of spec.

What games do you play lately? I play Sniper elite 3 and i like it a lot. The graphics are amazing but its very taxing on the CPU during game play. Sometimes its getting over 60% usage.
I am at 4.8 GHz now and i am happy with it so far, i need 1.525 vcore and 1.35 v on the CPU/NB in order to maintain full stability with 2600 MHz CPU/NB and 2133 MHz RAM. I which i could get the 2400 MHz that these sticks are rated for but unfortunately the multiplier of this board only goes to 2133 MHz.... Its fine though, i run 2133 MHz at 9-11-11-31 CR1 which is faster than 2400 MHz with higher timings anyway.
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post #58133 of 67351
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Hey thanks for the reply.

I matched a few more products to my rig.

So the 212 Evo ain't that great? How much of a difference would a second fan make? Right now I just have one fan on push.

4.4-4.6 clocks sound fine for me; I'm upgrading from a 3 core athlon II and the 8320e will probably bottlenecked by my gpu at stock. The overclock is for fun. If my PSU throttles my OC, so be it. After buying the water cooling, new psu, better case, bigger fans, for a serious OC, I'd rather get an i3 or i5, mobo, and ram instead. I may upgrade PSU when I get a new GPU, even then I'd rather get a more efficient model and hang on to my PSU if possible. I'm hoping the new GPU lines from Nvidia and AMD coming out later this year will provide a good match.

-Dave


Power supplies don't throttle overclocks. They fail and take other components out with them.
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You do understand that you can buy PCIE X4 adaptor cards, right? That can enable you to run PCIE based SSDs right?

Maybe your readings are affected by the link Speed. PCIe 2.0 v PCIe 3.0 at X4. Or a theoretical bandwidth of 500MB/s vs 985MB/s per lane.
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Great gamers board - will push an 8 core to what I consider its maximum practical daily overclock for the average user/gamer ( 4.7 ghz ) . I was playing games on it last night at 5.1 ghz, no problems, but I have it on my 480mm loop - caseless- with fans blowing on both sides of the board. - See comments below.
I really like the board . It's very much geared toward the gamer with its nic and sound being better than most out there. I have no idea what kind of Voodoo it has , but the heatsink over the VRMS are nearly room temp during anything I've run up to this point ( has a 120 corsair sp fan directly on it ) . Seems much cooler than my other boards. There are scads of non-believers out there , I think I'll grab the IR gun from work and shoot a video to show people what I am talking about.
It is a better race horse than a work horse however, and people who apply long duration, 100% loads at healthy overclocks would probably be better off with a Saber or CHV-Z. Of the other boards you listed, I don't have any experience with them , so I can't compare them to the 990 gaming.
I've had fluctuations of 20,000 points at the same settings, not sure what causes it - ULPS? Seems to be the first run is the slowest for that segment. I need to play with it a bit more.
Its good to see you have such confidence for the msi board. Thanks
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Originally Posted by Mega Man View Post

i really wanna pick up the msi board for playing with, just sounds like fun from what i have seen and heard !
Me too, I'm glad to see cssorkinman having a very good time with it.

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Originally Posted by cssorkinman View Post

Great gamers board - will push an 8 core to what I consider its maximum practical daily overclock for the average user/gamer ( 4.7 ghz ) . I was playing games on it last night at 5.1 ghz, no problems, but I have it on my 480mm loop - caseless- with fans blowing on both sides of the board. - See comments below.
I really like the board . It's very much geared toward the gamer with its nic and sound being better than most out there. I have no idea what kind of Voodoo it has , but the heatsink over the VRMS are nearly room temp during anything I've run up to this point ( has a 120 corsair sp fan directly on it ) . Seems much cooler than my other boards. There are scads of non-believers out there , I think I'll grab the IR gun from work and shoot a video to show people what I am talking about.
It is a better race horse than a work horse however, and people who apply long duration, 100% loads at healthy overclocks would probably be better off with a Saber or CHV-Z. Of the other boards you listed, I don't have any experience with them , so I can't compare them to the 990 gaming.
I've had fluctuations of 20,000 points at the same settings, not sure what causes it - ULPS? Seems to be the first run is the slowest for that segment. I need to play with it a bit more.

Nice! I was leaning towards the MSI board at first but when i saw that my Gigabyte Gaming motherboard had M.2 i went for the Giga.

It is really much faster than an SSD, programs and games load super fast. If the MSI had an M.2 slot i would probably went for that one because i would like to play with an MSI board and discover myself how good they really are. You were also raving about the GD-80 and so was Miklkit.

The only thing i fail to understand is that when i bench my 950 Pro i get stuck at around 80K IOPS for read and around 70K IOPS write which is obviously not correct. I have no idea what is causing this and i literally tried every setting i can think off in BIOS and Windows and the scores went up a bit but is still out of spec.

What games do you play lately? I play Sniper elite 3 and i like it a lot. The graphics are amazing but its very taxing on the CPU during game play. Sometimes its getting over 60% usage.
I am at 4.8 GHz now and i am happy with it so far, i need 1.525 vcore and 1.35 v on the CPU/NB in order to maintain full stability with 2600 MHz CPU/NB and 2133 MHz RAM. I which i could get the 2400 MHz that these sticks are rated for but unfortunately the multiplier of this board only goes to 2133 MHz.... Its fine though, i run 2133 MHz at 9-11-11-31 CR1 which is faster than 2400 MHz with higher timings anyway.

There are a couple of things I'd point out about the 990 gaming - I don't think I would put a 9xxx on it, as it locks the voltage in bios * can up it with soft ware* and the latest bios when working with the latest version of command center doesn't always give the correct voltage. It is consistent, but it won't match what is being fed to the cpu. Example 1.55 volt setting in CC = 1.48 in hwinfo. It's not v-droop, it's just not working properly with teh offset in voltage is what my theory is.

Wish I could submit this on the ROG forums, but since its with an MSI board it's not allowed - would be good enough for 3rd place too darn it !
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As you know, crappy/cheap PSU´s will burn out and take some components with it, when you reach/surpass it´s power limits.

A decent PSU will auto shutdown when you reach/surpass it´s power limits.

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Power supplies don't throttle overclocks. They fail and take other components out with them.
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As you know, crappy/cheap PSU´s will burn out and take some components with it, when you reach/surpass it´s power limits.

A decent PSU will auto shutdown when you reach/surpass it´s power limits.

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I think I have a good PSU, but it's only 450w. I hope if I run into any problems It'll shut down for me. biggrin.gif I think I'm within my PSU's limits b/c I don't have a power hungry GPU or very many other power hungry components.

I'm pretty happy with my 4.6ghz OC on 1.475 vcore. I tried upping PLL and Dram and vcore to 1.5 and I eventually stabilized at 4.7Ghz while maintaining adequate temps, but it wasn't really worth turning up all those volts to get there.

Now I'm going to try to balance the CPU Multi with NB to see if I can push my ram. I was able to push my ram at stock CLS 9 timings with effective 2350 NB with my old Athlon xii.
    
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There are a couple of things I'd point out about the 990 gaming - I don't think I would put a 9xxx on it, as it locks the voltage in bios * can up it with soft ware* and the latest bios when working with the latest version of command center doesn't always give the correct voltage. It is consistent, but it won't match what is being fed to the cpu. Example 1.55 volt setting in CC = 1.48 in hwinfo. It's not v-droop, it's just not working properly with teh offset in voltage is what my theory is.

Wish I could submit this on the ROG forums, but since its with an MSI board it's not allowed - would be good enough for 3rd place too darn it !
That won't really be an issue when oc'ing with/in bios, right?

I'd use cc only for fan control.
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Ram question.

I thought ram speed was calculated like this:
NB clock x ram speed clock x latency timings.

My old processor supported 2000mhz NB clock and my current one supports 2200mhz. Yet the ram speed in the bios is calculated out the same with both processors. What am I missing?
    
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Ram question.

I thought ram speed was calculated like this:
NB clock x ram speed clock x latency timings.

My old processor supported 2000mhz NB clock and my current one supports 2200mhz. Yet the ram speed in the bios is calculated out the same with both processors. What am I missing?

I don't know where you got this from. But to give you a simpler process, set CPU-NB a tad higher or equal to your RAM speed.

CAS Latency and Timings are purely RAM kit specific.
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