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There are a couple of things I'd point out about the 990 gaming - I don't think I would put a 9xxx on it, as it locks the voltage in bios * can up it with soft ware* and the latest bios when working with the latest version of command center doesn't always give the correct voltage. It is consistent, but it won't match what is being fed to the cpu. Example 1.55 volt setting in CC = 1.48 in hwinfo. It's not v-droop, it's just not working properly with teh offset in voltage is what my theory is.

Wish I could submit this on the ROG forums, but since its with an MSI board it's not allowed - would be good enough for 3rd place too darn it !

cssorkinman you need to run test 2-3 times in order to have a better result than the first time


Yup, makes a pretty big difference , doesn't it?
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Yeah, that's what i am planning to buy.

I can install it in my GEn2 x_16 slot in order to have the same speed as Gen3 x8.
I also read that when i install it in that slot i can only get x8 speed for both my GPU and SSD? If so, would that hurt my performance bad?

I am planning to get this adapter: https://azerty.nl/0-5743-794909/addonics-m2-pcie-ssd-adapter-intern-m-2-pci-express-3-0-x4.html

Hmm that's a huge drawback than. My gigabyte is just working fine no problems with that yet. The only downside is that i can't run 2400 MHz ram and its still PCIe Gen2. Other than that, its working perfectly fine.

I don't think an SSD has been made to make full use of X8 or 8 PCIe lanes yet.

Your limit is on the PCIe 2.0 limitation. Or just reading things wrong.
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Standard thickness - 11 fpi I think.
i dont think ive seen a 480 that was 30mm thick which is what i would consider standard...im thinking those are called slim models lol most of them are 45 or 55 or 60 smile.gif

I know alphacool makes them (30, 45, 60 and 80)
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Yeah, that's what i am planning to buy.

I can install it in my GEn2 x_16 slot in order to have the same speed as Gen3 x8.
I also read that when i install it in that slot i can only get x8 speed for both my GPU and SSD? If so, would that hurt my performance bad?

I am planning to get this adapter: https://azerty.nl/0-5743-794909/addonics-m2-pcie-ssd-adapter-intern-m-2-pci-express-3-0-x4.html

Hmm that's a huge drawback than. My gigabyte is just working fine no problems with that yet. The only downside is that i can't run 2400 MHz ram and its still PCIe Gen2. Other than that, its working perfectly fine.

I don't think an SSD has been made to make full use of X8 or 8 PCIe lanes yet.

Your limit is on the PCIe 2.0 limitation. Or just reading things wrong.

I think it was with hur, I already told him that you can't do this.

Again m.2 only uses 4 lanes pcie, you can't make it more, you can buy the intel ssd if you want more iirc it is x8, or a Revo drive but iirc they are all but extinct
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IIRC, black ice and others such as Koolance make 25mm rads too.


Hurr, you can switch to Z170 and do a RAID 0 of the 950 Pro. But how much speed you can feel is way off my marks. I would only recommend them to people needing them.

My recent foray into the 950s went hassle free but their strength only comes noticeable when doing heavy Video Encoding and dealing with RAW 4K stuff.
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And then they overheat
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So I think I'm pretty well dialed in.

I haven't needed to disable any of the power saving features offered in my motherboard.

With all of those features enabled does my PC use much more power at idle than it would if I ran it at stock?

Are you in Voltage offset mode? If not, your CPU will be getting the full voltage you specified, all the time. In offset mode, as Cool n' Quiet allows Windows to throttle down the CPU speed, the core voltage will drop. Also, C1E states help a good deal in power savings. I calculated a few years back that turning off C1E states on the CPU would cost an extra $12 a year in my electric bill if my PC was on like all the time...

So yes, power saving features do work, but it's up to you if you really care that much about saving a dollar or two a month on electricity.

If you put your computer to sleep all the time, then the cost difference would be much less.

When your CPU is really being utilized, it doesn't really do anything, so...
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And then they overheat

That, I will have to test. thumb.gif

The X99 Saber comes with all the dust cover plates (armor) for the PIE slots and m.2 but I didn't put that on in lieu of the heating issue.

I have decent airflow across the board so we'll see.
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I know alphacool makes them (30, 45, 60 and 80)
I think it was with hur, I already told him that you can't do this.

Again m.2 only uses 4 lanes pcie, you can't make it more, you can buy the intel ssd if you want more iirc it is x8, or a Revo drive but iirc they are all but extinct


I know how much you want me to be wrong but you are wrong this time Mega.. Its simple math, i get 1600 MB/s and around 75K IOPS, on the reads i get around 950 MB/s and around 65-70K IOPS. Obviously the IOPS are too low and yes i know the SSD is not working at its full potential because the PCIe Gen2 is the bottleneck here.. Now, it doesn't take a scientist to figure that one out..

The SSD is using its full potential in PCIe Gen3 x4 slot, since i only have PCIe Gen2 x4, and x_16 slots i can buy an M.2 adapter and insert it in to my x_16 slot in order to have the same speed as Gen3 x4 which is twice as fast.
I know this will work because this guy already done it:

http://nl.hardware.info/productervaring/4756/samsung-950-pro-256gb-productervaring-door-badlyanticipated

In Event viewer i get the following Warning: Evend ID 129 Reset to device, \ device \ raidport0, was issued. I can't find any information about it on the net about this. The only thing i found was that some people get this message because of a faulty SATA data cable but since NVME don't uses a SATA cable i think that its the SSD or the M.2 connector on the motherboard?
What do you think?
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You are absolutely correct hurr (please note since this is text I am being 100% sarcastic)

You can take something that has 4 lanes of pcie and using "simple math" and put it into something x8 or x16, and of course even though there are no lanes electrically attached it will work at x8/x16 using "simple math"

time and time again we try to give you simple truths yet you continually insist we are wrong and "show us proof" from a no name Internet source. All we are trying to do is save you money and time. However WE must be wrong. Just like we were when you insisted you can EASILY hit 5ghz stable with your h100.and it keeps spiraling from there the last 2 being when you argued with @Sean Webster and then about the vrm being so much better on the giga board...

Your right, let your "simple math" work and prove us wrong
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You are absolutely correct hurr (please note since this is text I am being 100% sarcastic)

You can take something that has 4 lanes of pcie and using "simple math" and put it into something x8 or x16, and of course even though there are no lanes electrically attached it will work at x8/x16 using "simple math"

time and time again we try to give you simple truths yet you continually insist we are wrong and "show us proof" from a no name Internet source. All we are trying to do is save you money and time. However WE must be wrong. Just like we were when you insisted you can EASILY hit 5ghz stable with your h100.and it keeps spiraling from there the last 2 being when you argued with @Sean Webster and then about the vrm being so much better on the giga board...

Your right, let your "simple math" work and prove us wrong

dude, i just proved it to ya and yet you will not believe? lol

A friend of mine that has actually an master degree in electronics said its possible.. and its not MY math its jut how PCIe works. "no name internet source"? Its from Hardware.Info lol

Here is another proof that is works: http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/SSD/downloads/document/Samsung_SSD_950_PRO_White_paper.pdf

you don't even bother to read what i post yet you want to bash me for being right? And not i proved you wrong you begin with something else just to bash me? Very immature and uncalled for to be honest..
Edited by hurricane28 - 2/14/16 at 3:47am
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