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so let me get this right..

this Steam VR test, 290x/390x are scoring better than 780 ti with essentially equal FX8 running the test..

I would really like to know how this bench is scored.. I've got an average of 122 fps (111min/137max) and yet this is Just inside the ready point?
That's very similar to what I get for numbers with the classy.
Vram? I really don't know , I'll overclock the 780ti and see where it lands.
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Vram doesn't make sense to me. Current max resolution is essentially what 3840x1440 or 3840X1200? essentially 1920x1200 or 1920x1400 doubled.

so if devs get their act in gear they don't need to double the memory requirement as you can use the same texture load and draw it twice.

with this grade GPU should be CPU limited due to the doubled load on the CPU as calculations need to paralleled in the interocular view

considering the lack of movement, and weird FPS pattern (i take a 1% fps hit with a game alt tabed) yes i get a much lower score with only a marginal load increase on the cpu while still scoring no cpu limited frames or frames under 90 fps.

I am very sceptical of the actual usefulness of this benchmark weather it actually has any relevance.

@megaman

I'm eager for these VR headsets for 3d entertainment. IN a few generations when you can get hardware and accessories that can push 6-8k res easy for this application.

i don't really care for what is available for VR games. If player stationary Spaceship or flight sim games similar to Elite or star citizen become mainstream and a little more causal(i want this game to nerd out in and just get enveloped in, and not to concerned abotu how good i am at it) friendly

I'd defiantly go out and get a racing sim chair to build around and go whole hog on it.

But right now i think the VR accessory industry should be focused on pumping the res up for general consumption and force the GPU and CPU industry to catch up to the demand.

maybe 'm spoiled by g sync and free sync but i think these technologies NEED to be implemented in these peripherals from the get go

I have no idea why but with the 780ti, it only reports using 2 gb of vram, whereas with the 290X it says its using 3 during the tests.
Managed to hit "9" with the 290X.

Its almost like they are comparing only the floating point Single precision and double precision computational strengths of the cards, kuz last time i checked the 780 ti beat the 290x in most benchmarks (this was also the case when i owned the lightning) accept where floating point mattered on GPU
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Guys it uses 4GB of dedicated VRAM and averaged out at 3.7gb on my system at least
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Guys it uses 4GB of dedicated VRAM and averaged out at 3.7gb on my system at least

Crossfire isnt counted either, 2x 280x should come out just ahead of a single 290x/390x minus vram

Frames are there but still counted my setup as capable even though the minimum never dropped below 90fps
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Guys it uses 4GB of dedicated VRAM and averaged out at 3.7gb on my system at least

Crossfire isnt counted either, 2x 280x should come out just ahead of a single 290x/390x minus vram

Frames are there but still counted my setup as capable even though the minimum never dropped below 90fps

Enter this as a launch option " -multigpu "

Should enable crossfire
 
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Crossfire isnt counted either, 2x 280x should come out just ahead of a single 290x/390x minus vram

Frames are there but still counted my setup as capable even though the minimum never dropped below 90fps

I had 7.3 what wasyou score?
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I don't have III. Europa Universalis IV is probably one of my favourite games as of the current patch. It's been a painful experience really, because the initial game is now very different than the current game after all patches and DLCs. Paradox is like a madhouse. They change the game all the time. There were many patches that made the game awful for me and as a matter of fact, i don't intend patch it any further, because i finally enjoy the game and everything seems to work, aside a rare CTD. BUT, when you accelerate time, it DOES become annoying. As in, you click and nothing happens, because the game is loading data or trying to make the moves for all countries and it simply kills the CPU. Even moving the screen left to right becomes somewhat stuttering. I read, that this becomes worse after 1700, because the army force limits by then are increased and there are too many armies in the game, where the CPU must calculate pathfinding, aside the normal AI operations for each nation. In my game, it became annoying past 1800... It's not unplayable and in normal time mode there is no problem, but if you accelerate time and it also happens that many countries are at war, you do get seconds of freezing when months pass quickly.And everything becomes unresponsive.

But, overall, it's my favourite game now. The only lacking thing, is a randomly generated map. There was a mod for that, but doesn't work with the latest patch. But you can still have random generated nations, on the "stock" (real) world map.

It's the most complicated game i 've ever seen, but once you read about it, it's the best strategic game out there IMHO.

You must try War in the Pacific.
By far more complicated then EU IV.

Some of my games against human opponent last for 2.5 years (PBEM)
Against PC is vastly hard also and PC would trash unexperienced player by end of 1942. smile.gif

That game really boils brain and to play it good you must read few history books.
EU IV is little more then joke strategic wise comparing to that.

P.S. In grand strategy mode against human opponent you need many hours to make first move.smile.gif

EDIT: Game initially out 2005. with standalone expansion 2009. (AE,much more detailed then original)) and it still worth 80 dollars.
For ultimate,timeless,strategic simulation is not much.

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You must try War in the Pacific.
By far more complicated then EU IV.

Some of my games against human opponent last for 2.5 years (PBEM)
Against PC is vastly hard also and PC would trash unexperienced player by end of 1942. smile.gif

That game really boils brain and to play it good you must read few history books.
EU IV is little more then joke strategic wise comparing to that.

P.S. In grand strategy mode against human opponent you need many hours to make first move.smile.gif

EDIT: Game initially out 2005. with standalone expansion 2009. (AE,much more detailed then original)) and it still worth 80 dollars.
For ultimate,timeless,strategic simulation is not much.

LINK

Thanks, but after reading a review in simhq and a youtube video, it's "overkill" for me. biggrin.gif I don't like games with hexagon grid, for some reason they make me think of table games and they are usually "obsessively detailed", to the point, that it's not IMHO a "strategic game" only anymore, but more like a "specific theater simulation". I am not too much into the Pacific war either and i read that the documentation is lacking and that one guy manages to play 1 turn per day, which is ridiculous. Also from what i read, it goes into too much detail, like the experience of individual pilots or the size of a facility and so on.

I have enough opportunities at work to boil my head, so with games i try to "cool it down" a bit. biggrin.gif I don't need more boiling in my head. Let's say that Shogun II is "light strategy", EU IV is "medium strategy", this Pacific war is "grand strategy". Well, i don't want to go beyond "medium".

But thanks, it was interesting. But such "games" have very limited audience. I mean, i can understand a history buff or someone who adores the Pacific war in WWII. But for me, even if i liked it, i wouldn't play it for long, because exactly it's very restricted. It has 15 missions i read and well, it's "too history based". What i like in Europa Universalis, is that after playing with the "real" world, you can play with "random world." And i hope one of the 2 modders that makes randomly generated geographic map, will also update his mod. These kind of "games" like "War in the Pacific" are similar to simulators that military cadets play in military academies. But that's a part of their job. I don't want to create a 2nd job for my free time to play a "game". biggrin.gif
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Hi, does anyone know a solution how to put the RAM at 2400MHz that does not throw BSOD. RAM is Kingston Beast 2x8gb 2133mhz 11-12-11-30-48 1.6V. Before I had a Kingston HyperX Blue 2x4GB 1600MHz 1.65V 9-9-9-27-36 and worked normally at 2400MHz without BSOD. Somehow I find it strange that the RAM of 1600MHz works at 2400MHz and 2133MHz will not.
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Hi, does anyone know a solution how to put the RAM at 2400MHz that does not throw BSOD. RAM is Kingston Beast 2x8gb 2133mhz 11-12-11-30-48 1.6V. Before I had a Kingston HyperX Blue 2x4GB 1600MHz 1.65V 9-9-9-27-36 and worked normally at 2400MHz without BSOD. Somehow I find it strange that the RAM of 1600MHz works at 2400MHz and 2133MHz will not.

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