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Just when i thought everything was sorted out it just happened again..

PC just shuts off out of nowhere.. In windows log it now says event 41 which is kernel-power. The reading in HWINFO64 are also false because i looked in the BIOS and voltages show the correct values.
Now the question becomes, how can i determine the problem without having spare parts and i don't have an multimeter i just discovered.. I still suspect the PSU since everything else is almost brand new except for the CPU..

This is why I like having a spare for everything if I can.

Always pays to have a PSU sitting in the cupboard for an occasion like this, doesn't exactly help you right now though.
 
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This is why I like having a spare for everything if I can.

Always pays to have a PSU sitting in the cupboard for an occasion like this, doesn't exactly help you right now though.

Yes you are right but i am not able to afford such an luxury right now unfortunately. I just did an RMA request for my PSU since that is the only thing i can thing of that can cause this and go from there. I reset my PC to stock values and it still happened plus i got the kernel-power event 41 in windows log which in 80% means there is something wrong with power delivery.

I tested my system to the max yesterday and let prime95 run overnight without any problems so my system is stable.
The shutdown happened suddenly without me changing anything on my system which can be an indication of software error but it isn't.
I even went to an prior restore point to be sure it cannot be any software that is causing this.

The main suspects are the PSU, Motherboard or CPU. The first one makes the most sense because i had this problem before and it was cured by a new PSU. The second could be but its completely random and if the Motherboard is indeed defective it would be also failing in Premiere pro or other high demanding programs, this is the same for the CPU so only the PSU is to blame here. I will get an replacement this week and i will go from there.


Luckily they have what they call "Cooler Master v-series replacement service" that means that you have to register your PSU and fill in some fields on their site and within a week UPS shows up with the new unit and you simply exchange the defective one for the new one!
THAT is how warranty should be IMO. Its by far the best service and warranty i ever heard of.
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This is why I like having a spare for everything if I can.

Always pays to have a PSU sitting in the cupboard for an occasion like this, doesn't exactly help you right now though.

Yes you are right but i am not able to afford such an luxury right now unfortunately. I just did an RMA request for my PSU since that is the only thing i can thing of that can cause this and go from there. I reset my PC to stock values and it still happened plus i got the kernel-power event 41 in windows log which in 80% means there is something wrong with power delivery.

I tested my system to the max yesterday and let prime95 run overnight without any problems so my system is stable.
The shutdown happened suddenly without me changing anything on my system which can be an indication of software error but it isn't.
I even went to an prior restore point to be sure it cannot be any software that is causing this.

The main suspects are the PSU, Motherboard or CPU. The first one makes the most sense because i had this problem before and it was cured by a new PSU. The second could be but its completely random and if the Motherboard is indeed defective it would be also failing in Premiere pro or other high demanding programs, this is the same for the CPU so only the PSU is to blame here. I will get an replacement this week and i will go from there.


Luckily they have what they call "Cooler Master v-series replacement service" that means that you have to register your PSU and fill in some fields on their site and within a week UPS shows up with the new unit and you simply exchange the defective one for the new one!
THAT is how warranty should be IMO. Its by far the best service and warranty i ever heard of.

I know what you mean, I had an SSD die on me a little while ago (of course it was the one my OS was installed on) and it took 3 weeks from shipping to replacement getting here, I had to ship it from Aus to the US (at my own cost) and then had to wait for the replacement to get here, again that's a reason why I like having spares around.

Keep an eye out for bargains every so often, I have a couple of 430w PSUs I use to test CPUs + Mobos when I think they are playing up, I also have a 1200w Silverstone unit here in case I need a backup, I have an AM3 Sempron to use in case of CPU fault, my Sabertooth + CVF-Z in case of Mobo, 3 Ram kits for memory, 4 SSDs for OS testing.

I know not everyone can be as lucky but sometimes but it's worth keeping an ear to the ground smile.gif
 
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I know what you mean, I had an SSD die on me a little while ago (of course it was the one my OS was installed on) and it took 3 weeks from shipping to replacement getting here, I had to ship it from Aus to the US (at my own cost) and then had to wait for the replacement to get here, again that's a reason why I like having spares around.

Keep an eye out for bargains every so often, I have a couple of 430w PSUs I use to test CPUs + Mobos when I think they are playing up, I also have a 1200w Silverstone unit here in case I need a backup, I have an AM3 Sempron to use in case of CPU fault, my Sabertooth + CVF-Z in case of Mobo, 3 Ram kits for memory, 4 SSDs for OS testing.

I know not everyone can be as lucky but sometimes but it's worth keeping an ear to the ground smile.gif

Yeah, its not fun dealing with what i call, bad RMA and service. That's why i always pick my components so carefully and only buy from retail stores with the best warranty and service. Sometimes they cost a little more but IMO its worth the extra 5 euro's or less.

I will keep an eye out for spare parts as it can be very need in situations like this. I would love to have an spare system to play with and keep this one for my personal and work stuff.
I just have an confirmation of Cooler Master that they will replace my unit within 3 days! That sounds awesome. I called my retail store and they also said its the PSU, last week he said he had an customer with the same problem and he solved it with new PSU so i am pretty sure its the PSU in this case.
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Have you tried Realbench? It loads your system with realistic levels on every single component.

But if you have your PSU incoming, good luck with that.
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This is why I like having a spare for everything if I can.

Always pays to have a PSU sitting in the cupboard for an occasion like this, doesn't exactly help you right now though.

Me too! thumb.gif Hoarding never hurt anyone (well, other than your wallet). The one time i RMAed a motherboard, it took 1 month. So the convenience of knowing that anything can burn and be substituted within 30 minutes by yourself, is priceless. There's nothing better than homemade RMA center.
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my main rig serves as a personal and business computer. for the last 15 years of building my own, i've always had a identical board in reserve.

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my main rig serves as a personal and business computer. for the last 15 years of building my own, i've always had a identical board in reserve.

ud

Yeah, i am particularly afraid of motherboards too, so finicky...



@ All

In case you are interested, there is a giveaway for Process Lasso:

https://bitsum.com/computerbild-process-lasso-pro-key-acquistion/

It only works with current version (you need to download it separately) and it activates online (you will get an email with code).


Now, i don't think it's really useful for 8 cores, but, it can be handy sometimes (if somoene runs things at 100% load, like IBT or Prime...it makes the PC run smoother while you run it) and here's also an interesting proof of concept:

https://bitsum.com/files/CPUEaterDist64.exe

https://bitsum.com/how-probalance-works/

It arrived to spawn 400 threads before i stopped it. The FX really was freezing for seconds, but it still managed to work eventually.

Anyway, i thought to post it in case someone is interested. Of course, it would benefit more dual core users. biggrin.gif
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Yeah, i am particularly afraid of motherboards too, so finicky...



@ All

In case you are interested, there is a giveaway for Process Lasso:

https://bitsum.com/computerbild-process-lasso-pro-key-acquistion/

It only works with current version (you need to download it separately) and it activates online (you will get an email with code).


Now, i don't think it's really useful for 8 cores, but, it can be handy sometimes (if somoene runs things at 100% load, like IBT or Prime...it makes the PC run smoother while you run it) and here's also an interesting proof of concept:

https://bitsum.com/files/CPUEaterDist64.exe

https://bitsum.com/how-probalance-works/

It arrived to spawn 400 threads before i stopped it. The FX really was freezing for seconds, but it still managed to work eventually.

Anyway, i thought to post it in case someone is interested. Of course, it would benefit more dual core users. biggrin.gif



I have been running this for years..the pro version. There is so much you can do with this, for example...change power profiles and core parking on the fly depending on what programs your running, auto kill or restart process for certain rules you set. It works great on AMD FX processors. It does much more. I highly suggest people at least check it out.
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