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post #61171 of 67694
I am curious about the issue of buying old chips that came up.
Is it really a bad idea to buy a 4 year old ivy bridge CPU? I was under the impression that CPUs where the most reliable parts to buy second hand...
Can it have something to do with degradation?

Cheers!
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It could very well be a long term degradation you should be worried of. For their age, and God forbid, the abuse they went through, not really a good proposition at the moment.

Go pick yourself a cheap 2011 Xeon a mint X79 board instead. 8C/26T Xeons are cheap on craiglist. They can be good excuse to let go of an FX.
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lol sold it for profit never even got to boot up biggrin.gif
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Welcome to Gigabyte BIOS hell.

First, the idle fan rpm, is determined by the fan itself. If the CPU is very cool, the lower RPM you will have will depend on the fan you have. You can't modify that. Mine is like 800 rpm, because the fan's specifications are 800-1800 RPM. So 800 becomes the baseline.

The "slope" is how fast you want the RPM to climb, at every increase in temperature. I have it to 2.5, since there isn't more than that. This isn't ideal either, because again, the point in which the fan will reach its max rpm is determined in base on its low RPM (baseline) and temperature increase. For example, in mine, i can't have the fan run at full blast below 50C, because the baseline RPM is too low.

There is no "universal" setting to hit 1200rpm, as you understand. I also wanted my lowest RPM to be like 1200 rpm, but there is no way to do that, unless i start heating up the PC artificially. The only thing you control is how fast the RPM will go up, STARTING from the lowest RPM (idle). Now, if your CPUs temp is a bit hotter due to summer, moving from auto to manual with 2.5 slope, might increase your base RPM, but there is no way that you can set it. It's a matter of luck. For example, mine, in summer goes to 1000 RPM at idle, if i set max slope, compared to auto. But it's because auto uses less slope. You can't control exact speed.

Yes, i have been buying Asrocks for 10 years, i didn't know either how bad Gigabyte BIOS could be. I won't be buying Gigabyte again in the future, unless i read they hired a team of actual software programmers.

Gigabyte's fan control is the opposite of Asrock. In Asrock, you don't have slope and thus no gradual increase in RPM. You have a temp limit. Above this temp limit, the fan will run at max RPM.

Both types of control are kind of crappy.

Here is a little bit more weird Giga fan experience.

I've been trying to get my VRM temps down lately on my GA UD3 990FXA. Eventually, I think I'll remount the heatsinks with thermal paste and remove the thermal pads. I thought putting a fan on the NB might make a marginal difference since there is a heat pipe going between the VRM and NB. It seems to drop the NB temp maybe a 1-3C, but the VRM's have consistently run a few degrees hotter since I put the little 50mm 3 pin fan on the NB. Anyway, I noticed that when I put the fan on the "system 1" 4 pin header and on the "power" 3 pin header that the fan that I had rpm on the fan of 22** and 51** respectively. There was no appreciable difference in noise or performance either way.
    
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For gaming, mainly AAA titles from 2016, is it better to have the memory at 2400 cl11 or 1600 cl8?
What gives better performance with the fx? Higher clocks or lower timmings?

Cheers
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Originally Posted by Gdourado View Post

For gaming, mainly AAA titles from 2016, is it better to have the memory at 2400 cl11 or 1600 cl8?
What gives better performance with the fx? Higher clocks or lower timmings?

Cheers
I would reckon 2400 cl11.
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post #61177 of 67694
2400C11 is kind of meh. Then you'll need 2600+ Mhz CPU-NB to take full advantage of the speed.

1600C8 is also nothing special. Maybe a tad easier to tune though.

2133C9 will be plenty.

Venture around Oc'ing mem to find out which set-up will yield best result, and can be reached by your system.
post #61178 of 67694
Lines Tech Tips did a video on this a year or two ago found here They basically show that once you hit about 1600mhz speed there is almost no difference in gaming performance. All performance scores platue with any measurable differences within the margin for error.

This was with older titles compared to today's offerings however, and games do change over time in their needs, but i bet its still relevant.
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LTT is just good for a bit of the humor ya know.
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Lines Tech Tips did a video on this a year or two ago found here They basically show that once you hit about 1600mhz speed there is almost no difference in gaming performance. All performance scores platue with any measurable differences within the margin for error.

This was with older titles compared to today's offerings however, and games do change over time in their needs, but i bet its still relevant.

It's also been proven on here and other places that linus doesn't know much about anything. Memory speeds are part of a very big picture so increasing the speed of your ram will indeed net you results, 5fps here and there in the grand scheme of things means you get where you want to be.

Thats why people with intel chips just don't understand why I'll defend an AMD 8350, my i5 is 5fps faster when both are overclocked, the price hike for plug and play isn't justified. Before I go on an hour long rant you need to stop watching tech tubers for any form of information, linus is paid off, and I'm pretty sure most of them don't have the time to research things like we do so test them for a day and belt out a video before screaming NEXT.
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