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I apologies for asking dumb questions. I got home looked aroudn the bios the chassis fan control was truned off by default i edited it but it runs on "standard" fan control so installed Asus Suite only with FanXpert and Probe II
The settings for the fans there are much more apealing to me biggrin.gif + i think the Probe II Treshold warnings are something usefull for later use. Unless ofc you can suggest something else for 24/7 monitoring the temperatures with warnings.

I did my night of raiding with the 4.5 Ghz clock with fans running a lot lower knowing that max temps were 70C on the package it had reached max 55C through the night of gaming. smile.gif will hopefully have time tomorrow to start going up.

Once again should i be going up only with Vcore voltage increase or are there other voltages i should tweak when trying to go higher than 4.5 ?
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It was at stock the entire time he had it.....

AIO cooler? Is he a bit special that's why he killed it?

Yeah it was an AIO, he knows nothing about how PCs work, just that they play games and youtube.
 
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For 4.2ghz I would not disable the power saving features. I have had chips at ~4.7ghz with C&Q/C1E enabled. SVM is a virtualization option that should not change much.
It hurts perf on Intel and amd. Should be off for most people as next to no one uses it.
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Start working on 23.

Like I said, don't rush.

You still havent seen where the chip feels happy. thumb.gif

Yeah but i reached 60C on the package on 22.5 I am trying to find that AMD statement for 70C but i am a bit scared biggrin.gif Everywhere i am finding that 62C is the limit for the package. Only statement for 70C is not directly that it is good to 70 but instead the overdrive software showing headroom for more OC + current temperatures making a total of 70.
AMD's in Overdrive showing a 70C max temp is their statement. It wouldn't show a thermal headroom of 70C if the chip didn't support it. You are really worrying for nothing really.

Vishera is as tough as nails. The chances of you killing this chip with heat is almost as unlikely as me being a man falling pregnant.

My 8350 died, lent it to my nephew so he could play some games and while he had it the cooler died and instead of not using it and letting me know he just kept turning it on and letting it hit thermal shutdown multiple times (84c package temp for those interested).

Sad day indeed, it surived alot while I had it.
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What games do you currently like to play?
How expensive is electricity where you are?
What resolution do you use and what is the refresh rate of your monitor?
What cooling do you have or plan to use?
What video card do you intend to pair with the new system?
What other activities do you use your cpu for?

Might find something useful here http://www.overclock.net/t/1534128/vishera-vs-devils-canyon-a-casual-comparison-by-an-average-user

I play a bit of everything, but mostly AAA games.
Electricity is ok. Not cheap, but not overly expensive.
I use a 1080p 75hz monitor.
Noctua NH-D14.
RX480 or Aircooled fury.
I only use the computer for gaming.

Cheers and thanks.

Ivy over FX for 1080p gaming, for above 1080p FX over Ivy
That really sucks man
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I apologies for asking dumb questions. I got home looked aroudn the bios the chassis fan control was truned off by default i edited it but it runs on "standard" fan control so installed Asus Suite only with FanXpert and Probe II
The settings for the fans there are much more apealing to me biggrin.gif + i think the Probe II Treshold warnings are something usefull for later use. Unless ofc you can suggest something else for 24/7 monitoring the temperatures with warnings.

I did my night of raiding with the 4.5 Ghz clock with fans running a lot lower knowing that max temps were 70C on the package it had reached max 55C through the night of gaming. smile.gif will hopefully have time tomorrow to start going up.

Once again should i be going up only with Vcore voltage increase or are there other voltages i should tweak when trying to go higher than 4.5 ?

Don't apologize but I would need bios screens to help sorry
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It hurts perf on Intel and amd. Should be off for most people as next to no one uses it.

Eh, I tend to VM lots so Its useful to me. Ive never seen a noticeable difference in day to day usage either. Poking around in the BIOS/UEFI just to run a VM is not convenient, and I dont need +2% performance that bad.
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I apologies for asking dumb questions. I got home looked aroudn the bios the chassis fan control was truned off by default i edited it but it runs on "standard" fan control so installed Asus Suite only with FanXpert and Probe II
The settings for the fans there are much more apealing to me biggrin.gif + i think the Probe II Treshold warnings are something usefull for later use. Unless ofc you can suggest something else for 24/7 monitoring the temperatures with warnings.

I did my night of raiding with the 4.5 Ghz clock with fans running a lot lower knowing that max temps were 70C on the package it had reached max 55C through the night of gaming. smile.gif will hopefully have time tomorrow to start going up.

Once again should i be going up only with Vcore voltage increase or are there other voltages i should tweak when trying to go higher than 4.5 ?
if you are mostly doing a CPU only overclock. Than it is mostly V core you need to worry about. When things get tight as you go higher a notch or two on the CPU-NB has been known to help but I don't think you are at that sort of point yet. And on air I doubt you will get there. So just stick with V core.

Unless you want to start overclocking your RAM and CPU-NB at a later stage as well? Then it's a totally different ball game.
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if you are mostly doing a CPU only overclock. Than it is mostly V core you need to worry about. When things get tight as you go higher a notch or two on the CPU-NB has been known to help but I don't think you are at that sort of point yet. And on air I doubt you will get there. So just stick with V core.

Unless you want to start overclocking your RAM and CPU-NB at a later stage as well? Then it's a totally different ball game.

I would like to set my Ram back to 2400 once i finish OC-ing as it is suposed to be 2400 the motherboard sets it to 1600 at default not that i see any difference biggrin.gif

The other thing i want is to activate boost and power savings. But lets first see where i can get on air so we can have an idea what boost we would be targeting biggrin.gif .... right? right? biggrin.gif
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Yeah it was an AIO, he knows nothing about how PCs work, just that they play games and youtube.

Another PC dead due to AIO, it's a sad sad day. RIP.
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I am not sure how to interpret this test with 23x multiplier.
It was successfull but the calculation result is different compared to all other tests with 21, 22, 22.5 multipliers. This time the result is the same 10 times but is different compared to the old tests.
I haven't changed the software except installing asus suite with fanxpert and probe II personalities.
Is it ok ? I used the same vCore i used for the 22.5 multiplier as i wanted to see if it will be enough 1.41250

Will try 23.5 now without changing the vcore but i guess it will crash biggrin.gif

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The speed means nothing. Your temperatures are too high and are affecting stability. Until you upgrade your cooling you have gone as far as you can go.

Now would be a good time to work on case air flow. Your case must flow a lot more air than your CPU cooling fans because they also have to clean out the hot exhaust air from the GPU. I run with a thermometer inside the case and have seen the CPU intake air stream get hotter while gaming. The case fans were not moving the GPU exhaust air out of the case fast enough. I moved the GPU down to a lower slot and installed more powerful case intake fans.

He he. I took the 2 fans off of a dead AIO and they make great pwm case fans, but I need 2 more. Does anyone have a dead AIO laying around? tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by miklkit View Post

The speed means nothing. Your temperatures are too high and are affecting stability. Until you upgrade your cooling you have gone as far as you can go.

Now would be a good time to work on case air flow. Your case must flow a lot more air than your CPU cooling fans because they also have to clean out the hot exhaust air from the GPU. I run with a thermometer inside the case and have seen the CPU intake air stream get hotter while gaming. The case fans were not moving the GPU exhaust air out of the case fast enough. I moved the GPU down to a lower slot and installed more powerful case intake fans.

He he. I took the 2 fans off of a dead AIO and they make great pwm case fans, but I need 2 more. Does anyone have a dead AIO laying around? tongue.gif

I already increased my case airflow and overall temperature performance as much as it was possible. Drilled out fan grills changed all fans etc etc. It's crouded with 7 HDD's so only possible upgrade would be a new bigger case while mine is already quite big. I have to set aside at least 100 eu for something good enough worth changing to.

Anyway i moved to 23x multiplier Without changing the vCore it still is at 1.41250 but did increase the fans a little ... i will try 23.5 and will ramp them up manualy to run at max above 50C so i can see the actual max temperatures.


Should i even try 23.5x ??? smile.gif i didn't thought i could reach that much on air and closed case cramped up with 6 HDD's 1 DVD and 1 SSD


after all we are trying to see what the chip can do correct?
i was thinking for something like 4.4 with 4.6 boost, but people are saying the boost is not worth the trouble ? I don't rly need all cores at 4.6 just 1 that does the heavy DX11 thread so even 4.2 with boost to 4.6 sounds better if that can happen ?
Edited by slavovid - 7/21/16 at 1:25pm
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