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Originally Posted by hurricane28 View Post

Yeah but the performance is really huge compared to stock.. unbelievable how slow these things are at stock lol but when you overclock them they are okay.

I personally can't go anything else than AIO to be honest, my chip runs really hot and there is no air cooler that fits in my case that can cope with this volcano and custom water loop is waay to expensive for me.

Maybe you enabled cool n quiet for 4.16Ghz, while you run without at 4.8? Are you sure you are stable at 4.16?

Here the difference doesn't look huge:
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/AMD-FX-9590-vs-AMD-FX-8350

P.S: You are spoiled. I run 4Ghz all the time and i find them fast! smile.gif
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post #61442 of 67694
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Originally Posted by Gdourado View Post

What's the advantages of a 990fx board vs a new 970 board like the Asus aura?
A 990fx boars with a good power delivery is much more expensive than the Aura.

Cheers

Someone posted a pic of the new 990fx sabertooth rev3. If my Rev1 died I'd pick one of those up to try.
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Originally Posted by hurricane28 View Post

Yeah but the performance is really huge compared to stock.. unbelievable how slow these things are at stock lol but when you overclock them they are okay.

I personally can't go anything else than AIO to be honest, my chip runs really hot and there is no air cooler that fits in my case that can cope with this volcano and custom water loop is waay to expensive for me.

Something strange must be going on then. I feel the FX 8300 running at stock is pretty quick and when overclocked at 4.5 Ghz, does not feel like a that large of a difference on the desktop. Seems to me that resetting the bios and starting again might be in order.
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4.0 up to 4.7 doesn't mean that much IMO. It's just that the chip feels more alive once you get it to 4.8.

4.8 til 5.0 doesn't also offer much of a difference in the desktop. Maybe even up to 5.2 matter of fact.

4.1 is also --- stockish!
post #61445 of 67694
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Originally Posted by Undervolter View Post

Maybe you enabled cool n quiet for 4.16Ghz, while you run without at 4.8? Are you sure you are stable at 4.16?

Here the difference doesn't look huge:
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/AMD-FX-9590-vs-AMD-FX-8350

P.S: You are spoiled. I run 4Ghz all the time and i find them fast! smile.gif

No, i never used those features to be honest and i don't really like them in the first place lol

I am back at 4.8 GHz again because luckily it cooled down. I was running 4.16 GHz at stock voltage of 1.3 so i think that is stable but didn't test it to be honest. The temperature dropped significantly from 65c to only 24c... and i do want to point out that inside my house was like living in an oven.. I don't know why stock and 4.8 GHz is such an big difference but everything just feels A LOT snappier and Firefox loads much quicker as well. Perhaps it wasn't stable enough at stock volts who knows.

Any news on ZEN yet?
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Originally Posted by Undervolter View Post

Maybe you enabled cool n quiet for 4.16Ghz, while you run without at 4.8? Are you sure you are stable at 4.16?

Here the difference doesn't look huge:
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/AMD-FX-9590-vs-AMD-FX-8350

P.S: You are spoiled. I run 4Ghz all the time and i find them fast! smile.gif

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Originally Posted by ManofGod1000 View Post

Something strange must be going on then. I feel the FX 8300 running at stock is pretty quick and when overclocked at 4.5 Ghz, does not feel like a that large of a difference on the desktop. Seems to me that resetting the bios and starting again might be in order.

I don't know either but i am back at 4.8GHz again so i am not going to look in to it, don't have time for that now.
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4.0 up to 4.7 doesn't mean that much IMO. It's just that the chip feels more alive once you get it to 4.8.

4.8 til 5.0 doesn't also offer much of a difference in the desktop. Maybe even up to 5.2 matter of fact.

4.1 is also --- stockish!

Yes that is what i pointed out, it feels a lot more alive and snappier in Windows. After 4.8 GHz i get an enormous voltage wall but even then its not worth it because i never noticed a difference between 4.8 and 5.0 GHz in what i normally do. I tried with rendering, gaming, browsing etc. etc. but there was no significantly gain in performance and that's one of the reasons why i stick with 4.8 GHz.
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Hey guys. smile.gif I think i have finished my FX 8350 project and have settled on something that i think is quite reasonable and cool biggrin.gif

And with boost clock !!! :biggrin.gif




This is my result tell me what you think
It is set 210 Bus speed the RAM i am using is 2400 so it's running at slightly less than it's rated. The system was stable at 215 bus too but i wanted to lower the temperatures.
This is done with base multiplier of 20 and target boost clock of 23 CPU LLC and CPU/NB LLC are both set on high and the rest of the settings in Digi+ are basicly what AL and mus1mus have suggested for clocking the FX 8350 with the only difference being CPU LLC is now lowered to High instead of Ultra High
Also C&Q had to be enabled along with the other C6 mode C1E APM / HPC/SUM etc i have only one of those disabled that is from the discription for dual OS or something like that. Turbo wasn't working before i enabled those settings.

Voltage is set on Offset + 0.0125 ( +2 steps) as from the suggestions in "computer restore" guide for using the turbo OC

The temperature result was with ambient temperature of 25C

So please tell me what you think and if you have suggestions for any bios settings.

Single Threaded performance from Passmark software got rated at 1745 i had similar results with 4650 fixed clock speeds but stabilizing 4600 was at above 65C with ultra high LLC
overall CPU score on the passmark with this setting got 9900 score something that from the tests results i got around 4350 fixed clock speed and that's about what would be expected.
Edited by slavovid - 7/22/16 at 10:46am
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post #61448 of 67694
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Hey guys. smile.gif I think i have finished my FX 8350 project and have settled on something that i think is quite reasonable and cool biggrin.gif

And with boost clock !!! :biggrin.gif




This is my result tell me what you think
It is set 210 Bus speed the RAM i am using is 2400 so it's running at slightly less than it's rated. The system was stable at 215 bus too but i wanted to lower the temperatures.
This is done with base multiplier of 20 and target boost clock of 23 CPU LLC and CPU/NB LLC are both set on high and the rest of the settings in Digi+ are basicly what All suggested for clocking the FX 8350 the only difference being CPU LLC is now lowered to High instead of Ultra High

Voltage is set on Offset + 0.0125 ( +2 steps)

The temperature result is with ambient temperature of 25C

Tell me what you think and if you have suggestions for any bios settings. I have C&Q enabled along with the other C6 mode C1E APM / HPC/SUM etc i have only one of those disabled that is from the discription for dual OS or something like that. Turbo wasn't working before i enabled those settings.

Single Threaded performance from Passmark software got rated at 1745 i had similar results with 4650 fixed clock speeds but stabilizing 4600 was at above 65C with ultra high LLC
overall CPU score on the passmark with this setting got 9900 score something that from the tests results i got around 4350 fixed clock speed and that's about what would be expected.

Please comment on my endeavour


you got 20C headroom go higher tongue.gif
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No, i never used those features to be honest and i don't really like them in the first place lol

I am back at 4.8 GHz again because luckily it cooled down. I was running 4.16 GHz at stock voltage of 1.3 so i think that is stable but didn't test it to be honest. The temperature dropped significantly from 65c to only 24c... and i do want to point out that inside my house was like living in an oven.. I don't know why stock and 4.8 GHz is such an big difference but everything just feels A LOT snappier and Firefox loads much quicker as well. Perhaps it wasn't stable enough at stock volts who knows.

Any news on ZEN yet?

I don't know, maybe you weren't stable or maybe Firefox can saturate a core? I vaguely remember someone in the forum saying that Firefox could hit 100% on an FX core. If it's true, it could easily explain why it's faster and it's not just placebo.

Myself, in extremely hot days, i have an AMDMsrTweaker profile, where i go back at stock 3.5Ghz. And i can't really tell the difference for ordinary activities. I can barely tell the difference if i play Skyrim and that's it. I am much more sensitive in detecting system responsiveness, as i add more security applications. Without anything, folders in directories open without any effort. As soon as i add an antivirus or something that uses global hooks, i can feel the drag. There is some lag. But this independent of clocks. Between 3.5 and 4 i can't tell which is what.

Maybe you are more sensitive to clock change.


I know nothing about Zen, other than an allegged leak post about clocks and TDP, which i posted in the Zen thread.
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you got 20C headroom go higher tongue.gif

I edited my text slightly after you quoted it. Yes i know i got headroom but i like to keep the room quiet and run those fans at 50-60% speeds to keep low temperatures.
In addition i plan to replace the GTX 650 with an RX 480 that will introduce a little bit of extra heat into the system so this turbo is meant to support the DX11 needs of the RX 480 and i think getting a 15% single threaded boost and around 10% standard OC sounds ok.

If the RX 480 doesn't change much the temperatures i am thinking i could increase the Bus to maybe 215. But it's not rly needed for the GTX 650 atm i barely reach 50% CPU load when in games with this GPU frown.gif
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