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Nice one!

Im not gonna chase that mate. That score couldve been higher on PCIe 3.0. Not that it's gonna be big but could widen the gap. Plus, that was the best I can squeeze from her. tongue.gif

I've got worse Physics woes than yours. Check this single vs SLI Physics:

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11424706
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11435365

My head is spinning!

Thnx, this new driver is actually pretty good for graphics it seems but not so much for physics. Does this physics woes happen on Intel as well? the first run i got 9400 and the worst is 8800 at the same clock speed lol.

SLI is very taxing on the CPU it seems even on Intel.

In all honesty, what is the biggest difference you feel going from 8350 to your i7?

Can't really say for Nvidia cards but with AMD Crossfire nets you a higher Physics score opposed to Single card on FX and the opposite happens on my i7.
 
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As far as I remember, the 980TIs didnt exhibit this. And true, my hawaiis didnt have this either. So my head is really into torn in this issue.

It may be due to driver, OS, or missing libs.

If you want an honest answer on what the FX differ vs this Hexa i7 in terms of daily use and the perceivable things, let's take it this way,

FX is more responsive with normal tasks like browsing, opening apps, starting in Windows and stuff. Opening apps is faster on the FX too where, double clicking on an app or a shortcut releases the windows right away. Where the i7 takes a bit of a pause to fire things up. Sometimes up to a couple of seconds. You can imagine things are loading in the background / ram or cache so the processor can operate the app faster once it does.

The i7 shines when the app are already open and ready to do what you needed to do. After all, its the faster CPU.

It's not lag, just not that responsive when you scale things up side by side. Of course, opening an app is different from running it. thumb.gif
post #61513 of 67898
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I couldn't resist lol, here are the results:

8 cores

http://www.3dmark.com/aot/157095

6 cores

http://www.3dmark.com/aot/157096

Seems like it scales very well in DX12

Thank you, very useful information smile.gif

I did a small article about DX12 and FX here http://www.overclockers.com/amd-fx-processors-and-directx-12/
I found on the API test it didn't matter if it was 9370 or 6350 at 5.0 they scored the same even the 9370 at stock was identical. The API call is driven by the card.
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I couldn't resist lol, here are the results:

8 cores

http://www.3dmark.com/aot/157095

6 cores

http://www.3dmark.com/aot/157096

Seems like it scales very well in DX12

Thank you, very useful information smile.gif

I did a small article about DX12 and FX here http://www.overclockers.com/amd-fx-processors-and-directx-12/
I found on the API test it didn't matter if it was 9370 or 6350 at 5.0 they scored the same even the 9370 at stock was identical. The API call is driven by the card.

Thanks for the link smile.gif
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3DMark just added Time Spy( DX12 1440) to their suite. It's free if you want to watch the demo. $5 addon. No combined test either. It was a week late for the article or I would have done those tests too.
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I'm just about done with my inital tuning of my Serenity build you can find in my sig. This thread and community is super helpful in getting things done.

Here is a quick overview. I am going to try and find time to do a full build log and OC guide with pics soon to further help folks with similar hardware.

FX-8320e @ 4.0GHz (1.270v idle / 1.216v load)

Enabled: C&Q, C1E, HPC
Disabled: Turbo, C6, SVM, APM
Not availabe: LLC frown.gif

FSB (200 x 20)
CPU-NB (2200 @ 1.25v)
HT (2400 @ 1.25v)
NB (1.25v)

Ram: 16GB (8×2) 2133mhz @ 1.6v 10-11-11-28-1T

This configuration is essentially an undervolt at this point but still kind of an OC too. At stock an 8320e will almost never use the 4.0GHz turbo and when it does it will not do it on all 8 cores. It also ramps up above 1.40v to the CPU when it does turbo.

This set up runs all 8 cores at 4.0GHz with less voltage and when idle will power down to 1.4GHz and 0.08v thanks to C&Q. I have not seen any throttling when under load due to power saving features being enabled so i can atest to leaving them on once your confident you have your rig dialed in.

Ideally i would like to set up turbo in a way that basicly turbos each modual up to maybe 4.5+GHz essentially acting like a boosted 4 core system for work loads that require such. It seems AMD OD has this option but im not sure i will get it to work. We shall see.

So im gonna recant my earlier position that C&Q and C1E do not cause instability. Ive been doing some testing and notice so far in very limited runs that i cant get P95 stable with those enabled but disable and i have no issues. Will do further investigating to see if its one if the 2 settings or both.
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You may need to run slightly higher voltages with C&Q enabled. Ive not had any issues up to ~4.6ghz. Beyond that my chip needed too much voltage for any "extra" to be feasible.
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I tried that...the instability remained even after significant voltage bumbs. I am turning everything down and starting over to see if i can isolate the setting that is causing it.

One note...i do not have LLC available on this 970 board. Probably why smaller bumps may be working for some or even none at all for others.
post #61519 of 67898
If you want to enable power options, you need to first establish a stable baseline and Turn ON the power saving stuff one by one to get to the root of while testing stability.

CnQ will need something like, Offset Vcore to work on some boards.
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Can you explain to me how using off set voltage does anything different than just upping the voltage manually? For example...i can get to 1.30v by changing it manually to 1.30v or by setting it to 1.25v with an offset of +0.05v

I have noticed in some cases with past builds they are not always equal in terms of stability results but i dont know the underlying reason why. I have my theories though.
Edited by gapottberg - 7/26/16 at 5:37pm
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