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The 980x was 6 c 12t CPU I'm sure it would hold it's own if not outpace the FX in single or multi. If I were building something now it would be skylake TBH for a general gamer home PC. Good X58 board and a 980x will still run $500+

@slavovid
I've never been a fan of AMD turbo function. I would just go for a max clock. If runningg games that need more single thread I have cut cores to 4 and upped the clock to thermal limits. Basically two profiles in BIOS. That's if I was temp limited on that system.

My mistake i should have looked it up before commenting. Confused it with something else.

You got me curious so I got some examples from HWBot
http://hwbot.org/submission/2885792_walkalone77_cinebench___r15_core_i7_extreme_980x_1121_cb
http://hwbot.org/submission/3078492_spooky_cinebench___r15_fx_8350_803_cb

As you can see i7 has about a 50% lead on the FX at 5.0
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Hello,
I need some information on relative performance.
How does a Vishera AMD CPU compare to an Intel 980X?
With both of them Overclocked.
The Vishera can probably do an easy 4.6 ghz and probably so can the 980X.
How do they compare in gaming?
In both single core performance, IPC and multi core performance?

Thanks.
Cheers!
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With my NH-D15 in my unmodded Fractal Define R5 4.6GHz is actually only doable while it is less than 25°C in my apartment right underneath the roof (very hot in the summer). At least while stress testing...
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I just did some searching on Passmark, and it shows that overall the 980x and the 8350 are 1 point apart and in single thread performance the 8350 is in fact 52 points better!

Keep in mind that these are user results with some being stock and some being overclocked. Anyhoo, here is a comparison I did some time ago for another discussion. http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp%5B%5D=866&cmp%5B%5D=2744&cmp%5B%5D=2014
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Still that was 3.3 vs 4.7 clock for clock I'm sure the 980x is better. The only thing it might be missing will be some instruction sets like AVX which could hurt in the right software.
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You got me curious so I got some examples from HWBot
http://hwbot.org/submission/2885792_walkalone77_cinebench___r15_core_i7_extreme_980x_1121_cb
http://hwbot.org/submission/3078492_spooky_cinebench___r15_fx_8350_803_cb

As you can see i7 has about a 50% lead on the FX at 5.0

That is impressive for a 7 year old CPU...
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Clock for clock FX ends up around Core 2, which is only slightly behind Thuban (Phenom II x6). FX clocks quite a bit higher though.

Need someone with the overclockable dual LGA 771 board to compare 8x Core 2 CPU cores @ 4ghz to 8x FX cores @ 4ghz. I know that the workstation I had with 2x 771 quads @ 3ghz was comparable to a stock FX 8150 in rendering.

The 45nm LGA 771 platform is 10 years old now, the fact that it is in the same ballpark as FX is kind of depressing.
Edited by KarathKasun - 7/28/16 at 3:00pm
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Clock for clock FX ends up around Core 2, which is only slightly behind Thuban (Phenom II x6). FX clocks quite a bit higher though.

Need someone with the overclockable dual LGA 771 board to compare 8x Core 2 CPU cores @ 4ghz to 8x FX cores @ 4ghz. I know that the workstation I had with 2x 771 quads @ 3ghz was comparable to a stock FX 8150 in rendering.

The 45nm LGA 771 platform is 10 years old now, the fact that it is in the same ballpark as FX is kind of depressing.

Depressing is dropping $4000 on a dual socket 771 QX 9775 rig only to have an $800 Fx system match it three years later.
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Hey salv...did you end up using AMD Overdrive to get your turbo boost to work or some other tool/Bios feature?

I asked here if it's worth trying overdrive but didn't get much so just forgot about it's existence and did it through the Mobo settings. In fact my boost clock is going up to 4925 biggrin.gif

I just installed fresh W10 today and i am noticing the CPU jumps higher in HW monitor ... dunno if i am imagining things

4846 is highest i had during tests when i was doing the OC and i haven't seen it go much higher in W7 and now with the new Windows Hw monitor shows 4925

I see the bus being set at 210 has reached 214.1 while on w7 was max 211.9 hm maybe W10 helps managing the boost better or i dunno why is it so 0 changes in bios

I just ran passmark and got 1782 single threaded performance but the odd thing is i saw "according to HW monitor" the boost to jump to several cores at once
Before on W7 i was seeing 1 multiplier hit 23 at a time but now i was seeng like 4 of the 8 cores to work on 23x

Reran the passmark got 1799 single threaded this time and around 9450-9550 on both runs overall score compared to the stock 4.0-4.2 i was getting 1500 and
result seems nice
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I asked here if it's worth trying overdrive but didn't get much so just forgot about it's existence and did it through the Mobo settings. In fact my boost clock is going up to 4925 biggrin.gif

I just installed fresh W10 today and i am noticing the CPU jumps higher in HW monitor ... dunno if i am imagining things

4846 is highest i had during tests when i was doing the OC and i haven't seen it go much higher in W7 and now with the new Windows Hw monitor shows 4925

I see the bus being set at 210 has reached 214.1 while on w7 was max 211.9 hm maybe W10 helps managing the boost better or i dunno why is it so 0 changes in bios

I just ran passmark and got 1782 single threaded performance but the odd thing is i saw "according to HW monitor" the boost to jump to several cores at once
Before on W7 i was seeing 1 multiplier hit 23 at a time but now i was seeng like 4 of the 8 cores to work on 23x

Reran the passmark got 1799 single threaded this time and around 9450-9550 on both runs overall score compared to the stock 4.0-4.2 i was getting 1500 and
result seems nice
Interesting Passmark results. at 4.6 I was getting ~1600 single and ~10k overall scores. Does your single threaded boost clock actually result in better frames in any games? I remember you saying you play WoW. I don't know if Blizzard improved the engine much in regards to thread utilisation but I'd imagine it is, like most MMOs, still very much dependant on one thread. Do you see more frames there than if you'd just clock all cores to 4.4 or something like that?
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Don't use Passmark

It's sheet
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