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sigh.... sigh........... sigh........

1 tdp IS NOT necessarily total power ......
2 amd does not control how people make am4 mobos, that is up to AIOs
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Pretty exciting stuff from what i've seen so far. Fingers crossed for Zen to be a hit.
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Yeah, this is some very good news. I am curious how much this 8 core AMD CPU costs. According to the benchmark it can compete with an 900 euro/dollar Intel CPU so i don't expect it to be very cheap.
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It's hard not to think AMD is going to make some big mistakes, but even a flop would be better than their current lineup. I like that they're putting out more eight core processors with hyperthreading, that will help the CPU market all around.
    
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Yeah, this is some very good news. I am curious how much this 8 core AMD CPU costs. According to the benchmark it can compete with an 900 euro/dollar Intel CPU so i don't expect it to be very cheap.
i dunno, if it performs I'd still buy one for a similar price to an intel. Would support the company and push on advances.

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It's hard not to think AMD is going to make some big mistakes, but even a flop would be better than their current lineup. I like that they're putting out more eight core processors with hyperthreading, that will help the CPU market all around.

Truth, glad more CPUs are multicore 6+ so devs have to account for it.
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i dunno, if it performs I'd still buy one for a similar price to an intel. Would support the company and push on advances.
Truth, glad more CPUs are multicore 6+ so devs have to account for it.

Yeah me too. I hope i can afford it when it comes out tho because i really would like something faster than my current setup.
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Zen was always about bringing things back to at least a relative parity with Intel. Zen+ is where we may see things get really interesting but I'm quite keen on Zen as-is. If I can get Haswell-ish IPC in gaming tasks, the benefit of more cores/threads than mainstream i7, and at a lower price than the HEDT platform (in all likelihood) Zen will be too good to pass up.

     
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i dunno, if it performs I'd still buy one for a similar price to an intel. Would support the company and push on advances.
Truth, glad more CPUs are multicore 6+ so devs have to account for it.

Since Moore's law is finally falling apart, it's hard to imagine that greater emphasis on multi-core setups isn't going to be part of the strategy for increasing performance. More work from the dev's will benefit us 6 and 8 core vishera owners too (:
    
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Yeah, this is some very good news. I am curious how much this 8 core AMD CPU costs. According to the benchmark it can compete with an 900 euro/dollar Intel CPU so i don't expect it to be very cheap.
I see this a lot but people need to remember that AMD needs to regain marketshare. They are not in the position to gouge. They need mindshare to regain marketshare. They will need to compete on price.

I'm no expert but it looks like Zen was designed to be more affordable to manufacture than less, hence the loss of things like a high focus on AVX-2 performance or the inclusion of AVX-512. No EDRAM. Not massive L3 or L4 caches. Density rather than performance library. Etc.
Edited by superstition222 - 8/19/16 at 11:35pm
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If they sell Zen 8C/16T competing with an Intel 6C/12T processors, they would fail to regain a good Market Share. Even with these leaks that it competes with Broadwell-E 6900K. They really must price Zen just above the mainstream offerings from Intel.

You have to remember the fact that Intel became the standard for CPU coding optimisations for the most part of application development. One benchmark cannot tell the story. So Zen should cost below the lowest Intel HEDT SKU up until they can fully optimise their architecture to utilize Intel standard Instruction sets. Then we'll see them competing with Intel HEDT for sure.

Then, Intel will be forced to drop their HEDT prices. We, the consumers win!

Maybe with a 16C/32T Zen, they can opt to compete with the highest HEDT SKU prices.
Edited by mus1mus - 8/19/16 at 11:47pm
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