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I think that they have to position Zen at the mainstream i5/i7 level for now. If they can offer more competitive per-core performance versus Intel's mainstream with the additional cores/threads it will be a great purchase even if it can't always match the latest and greatest or beat out HEDT. With some new income from that and success in the enterprise market we could see an HEDT competitor - Zen+ or whatever the codename is, I'd wager. A lot is riding on the desktop market in terms of mind-share,  but I think even more in the server-space. They need that enterprise-grade cash! :2coolsmil 

     
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This kinda talk always cracks me up.

We can speculate about speculation or wait and know. I'll wait then know.
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I don't see anything wrong with wondering about the possibilities if one hasn't pinned their emotional well-being to the outcome. In my lab we speculate all the time, because we're able to divorce our idle pontifications from the practical reality which presents itself. So long as that's the way that people approach these things I don't see any harm in it. Certainly it's more interesting than the alternative.

     
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This kinda talk always cracks me up.

We can speculate about speculation or wait and know. I'll wait then know.

Yeah what doesn't lol

I don't see anything wrong with talking/speculating about this matter to be honest.
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Who said it was wrong. I said it makes me laugh.

It is like a primary debate speculation, or super bowl speculation. It makes me laugh
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Can we accept these 2 things about Zen as fact?
8c16t is at 95watt tdp and it performs about the same as broadwell-e in blender?
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Can we accept these 2 things about Zen as fact?
8c16t is at 95watt tdp and it performs about the same as broadwell-e in blender?

Not sure where you are getting the 95watt TDP, but ill go as far as saying the final Zen config will likely hold similar results in blender when all is said and done with stock speeds of broadwell-e and stock speeds of Zen being neck and neck.

I dont think you can accept even that as fact until we have a real Zen chip though.

What we can say is fact is that AMD has shown clock for clock to have massively improved their IPC from their previous generations best showings.

Id love to see someone run a similar side by side blender test with same cores/thread counts using currently available AMD and intel offerings. We could get a better idea of the actual gains over BD line zen is sering in late ES samples.
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Can we accept these 2 things about Zen as fact?
8c16t is at 95watt tdp and it performs about the same as broadwell-e in blender?

Not sure where you are getting the 95watt TDP, but ill go as far as saying the final Zen config will likely hold similar results in blender when all is said and done with stock speeds of broadwell-e and stock speeds of Zen being neck and neck.

I dont think you can accept even that as fact until we have a real Zen chip though.

What we can say is fact is that AMD has shown clock for clock to have massively improved their IPC from their previous generations best showings.

Id love to see someone run a similar side by side blender test with same cores/thread counts using currently available AMD and intel offerings. We could get a better idea of the actual gains over BD line zen is sering in late ES samples.

Numerous slides and websites are reporting it to be 95 watt tdp for the 8 core 16 thread machine.

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All sources i have seen would fit firmly in the speculation camp as opposed to the fact camp.

Until i see offical specs from AMD i wouldnt be calling it fact. Whatnis fact however is that AMD has claimed to have a variety of ways they plan to implememt Zen with multiple TDP configurations likely. I think its a safe bet to say they will likely offer a 95watt tdp model, but to say fotnsure it is the 8/16 one that will be marketed to enthusists seems a bit rash. Its possible it is...but i think their higher end stuff will most likely be higher TDP. Either way these are leaks...there are no facts regarding the TDP status of any model of Zen...8/16, 6/12, or 4/8...available at this time to my knowledge.
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AMD will match Intel's current TDP numbers. If you want anything higher, you can OC.
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