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A molex-powered pump would, yes. You would just need to unplug the MB's power pins.

Ok just basically unplug GPU and Mobo, cover with paper towels and plug it into molex? But does it not require the Mobo to tell the PSU to power up? I was under the impression that it needed the Mobo to tell everything to power up (such as case fans plugged into molex and whatnot). Because I know when I start up my computer with the case power button my case fans which are powered by molex turn on at that point....

Yes, I use a seperate power source all together, but if you cannot do that, you need to 'hotwire your PSU. When you look at the 24 pin ATX power connector. You will see a green lead, The green lead needs to be bridged to one of the black leads to bypass the BIOS wakeup. (paper-clip works really well for this)
Have a look at this guide for WC'ing ad setup.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?54331-Guide-To-WaterCooling-and-Leak-Testing-ALL-New-WaterCooler-s-Read-Before-Posting!
Here is a pictorial on how to do it as well.

http://www.theraptorpit.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1972

Hope that helps smile.gif
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A molex-powered pump would, yes. You would just need to unplug the MB's power pins.

Ok just basically unplug GPU and Mobo, cover with paper towels and plug it into molex? But does it not require the Mobo to tell the PSU to power up? I was under the impression that it needed the Mobo to tell everything to power up (such as case fans plugged into molex and whatnot). Because I know when I start up my computer with the case power button my case fans which are powered by molex turn on at that point....
AAH. Right! I forgot that part! doh.gif Hum. well, yeah, you need to feed the pump some juice, and you can't power a PSU stand-alone... headscratch.gif So in the end, nope. it's probably still running with the motherboard on, unless you have some kind of wall-to-molex adapter. I never tried unplugging a.. oh, wait a minute... I just remembered something biggrin.gif


http://www.corsair.com/en/blog/testing-your-corsair-power-supply

Edit: Damn, red beat me to it. tongue.gif
Edited by Tarnix - 12/27/12 at 10:12am
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I see here there are a few running 8320/8350 with sli/cf. How is your experience during gameplay, especially on MP games like BF3, FC3, BLOPS , etc. Any suggestion of the CPU not being strong enough and causing bottleneck as being suggested.
Thanks in advance
It seems like a certain group of people would like everyone to believe the Vishera is too weak to push an elaborate gpu setup. I think it will keep pace with anything in its price range .

Some good reading in these forums about the subject and maybe this video will shed some light on the subject http://youtu.be/2HGpFoeubEU
Also an enlightening review here : http://www.pureoverclock.com/Review-detail/combo-review-amd-vishera-fx-8350-asus-crosshair-v-formula-z-rog/
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It seems like a certain group of people would like everyone to believe the Vishera is too weak to push an elaborate gpu setup. I think it will keep pace with anything in its price range .

Some good reading in these forums about the subject and maybe this video will shed some light on the subject http://youtu.be/2HGpFoeubEU
Also an enlightening review here : http://www.pureoverclock.com/Review-detail/combo-review-amd-vishera-fx-8350-asus-crosshair-v-formula-z-rog/

I feel like you're being vague when you say "a certain group of people."
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I see here there are a few running 8320/8350 with sli/cf. How is your experience during gameplay, especially on MP games like BF3, FC3, BLOPS , etc. Any suggestion of the CPU not being strong enough and causing bottleneck as being suggested.

Thanks in advance

This sounds a bit like a setup, but I will bite.
To answer your question: No it's not as "being suggested"
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
BF3 4 x 7970


And for a lower res/morer CPU:
#21, right in the middle of heavily Oc'd 3930's and 3 x 680/7970 (this was before I went quadfire on this machine)
I have an updated quadfire submission ready...(I moved up a bit biggrin.gif )



An example of a game that uses only two cores +/-
Metro 2033

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It seems like a certain group of people would like everyone to believe the Vishera is too weak to push an elaborate gpu setup. I think it will keep pace with anything in its price range .

It does better than it's price range CSS , it just keeps pace and is stronger as the resolution/multi GPU's go up smile.gif

anyway, hope that helps smile.gif
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I see here there are a few running 8320/8350 with sli/cf. How is your experience during gameplay, especially on MP games like BF3, FC3, BLOPS , etc. Any suggestion of the CPU not being strong enough and causing bottleneck as being suggested.
Thanks in advance
It seems like a certain group of people would like everyone to believe the Vishera is too weak to push an elaborate gpu setup. I think it will keep pace with anything in its price range .

Some good reading in these forums about the subject and maybe this video will shed some light on the subject http://youtu.be/2HGpFoeubEU
Also an enlightening review here : http://www.pureoverclock.com/Review-detail/combo-review-amd-vishera-fx-8350-asus-crosshair-v-formula-z-rog/
I watched the whole videos, and this is what I can get out of it:
  1. The FX-8350 has a lower FPS count of about 5% and well within the MoE (Margin of Error), which is rather small compared to the known inferior single-thread performance of AMD CPU's
  2. Some games are scaling horribly with crossfire
  3. Benchmarks, that are generally not compiled in x87 (What makes Intel faster for starcraft N stuff), makes that single-thread performance problem very obvious, and mainly because AMD GPU can not do PhysX. (note: Benchmarks often ignores "PhysX on GPU" setting, anyway)
I'm not sure who this "group of people" may be, but this clearly isn't the case. In fact, one game shows a significant boost in FPS with single GPU and AMD.
Personally, I find that the FX-8350 is performing closer to Intel than any other CPU since Athlon II, and please I don't want to hear about synthetic benchmarks that are made to expose weakness in float operation when not using AVX, we already know that. In real-world usage, the FX is very close to it's price competitor, if not sometimes better.

Edit: Typos, argument fixes and various quirks
Edited by Tarnix - 12/27/12 at 10:43am
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As soon as the bridge is made does it power up? Its that simple?
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As soon as the bridge is made does it power up? Its that simple?

start it that way, but yes...that simple smile.gif
You're merely bypassing the BIOS/POST wakeup to the PSU.
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As soon as the bridge is made does it power up? Its that simple?
yep. I've seen on youtube (couldn't find the video back), someone actually made a "plug" with a soldered wire for the 24-pin. I think it was on LinusTechTip.
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As soon as the bridge is made does it power up? Its that simple?
yep. I've seen on youtube (couldn't find the video back), someone actually made a "plug" with a soldered wire for the 24-pin. I think it was on LinusTechTip.


Had ya by 1 second on that one Tarnix tongue.gifbiggrin.gif
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