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This will surely become the next dreaded UD3 board! biggrin.gif
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Zen is probably so efficient it doesn't need any more than 4 phases to reach 5 ghz tongue.gif

Pretty sure that's 7 phase

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This will surely become the next dreaded UD3 board! biggrin.gif
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Zen is probably so efficient it doesn't need any more than 4 phases to reach 5 ghz tongue.gif

I'm gonna remember you said that tongue.gif

Also.....That's probably a B series board, AMD are doing the same thing as Intel with Zen in that they are separating the chipsets, the ones you guys will want fall into the "X" category (Same as Intels "Z" series)

Yep A320 , B350 and X370. I haven't heard this thing about "the same as intel" Since the only chipsets they allow to OC are the "Z" but this was done with the B350 apparently http://www.fudzilla.com/news/processors/41695-bristol-ridge-seriously-overclocked
This is an early board, probably designed more around the Bristol Ridge than Zen since I doubt there are many "Zen" samples available ATM
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After many fun stuff Bios glitches, Ultra bizzare FSB jumps, bossting my 8350 to 5+ghz and near fire hazards on almost stock voltage, I think I learned my lesson.
Paying the early adopters price is one thing. Buying cheapo Mobos another. But being an early adopter whilst buying cheapo Mobos is such a shot in the foot, I will never repeat.
To add to the previous post, my complaints: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
To get 1600mhz accepted I have to boot with 1.7v on the ram the first time. It is bizzare, but stock voltage 1600mhz ram always fails to post the very first time it is installed. After the first bios post it works. Always repeatable bizzare stuff.

Same ram stranges as previous post. Sometimes the fourth stick does not get detected the very first install. Multiple ram changes confirmed this. Just random.
Overclocked NB leads to complete shutoff on a very specific work load. No throttling, no strange abnormal temps, just boom and it's off. Took me a while to realise it. Tower cooler didnt push air down like the stock cooler did.

All kinds of VIA audio related stuff, like messed up front panel audio when the driver service doesnt run

Amd Turbo just refusing to work (not that I need it anymore)

Fan header shorting out somehow and never posting RPM again.

USB 2.0 not being detected on reboot, unless im usb 3.0 port. (Mouse specific, but still :/ )

And lets not even talk about these godless VRM problems.


Nice!!! thumb.gif I particularly liked how you invented a new way to go past 5Ghz through the bus "jump"! VIA and USB bugs are a "must", for any Giga board that respects itself! biggrin.gif It's not a problem of early adoption or price. I 've had 55 euro Asrock boards and still have some, from AM2+ socket, that worked without a single BIOS glitch. The problem is that the BIOS programming team of Gigabyte is drunk as a skunk. You can buy their newer and more expensive 990 Gaming series and they still have BIOS bugs. They simply don't care. After a while, they just release a new revision of the motherboard, instead of fixing the bugs.

GIgabyte, is the only manufacturer, where you have to remember by heart, the bugs of each revision in order to help someone. It's like this: "Rev 1, 3, 5 have this problem. 2 and 4 have that. Sorry mate, you got rev3, that's the most terrible of all, better luck next time".
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Gigabyte has lost me as a customer for that very reason. I won't purchase their boards anymore. Since they obviously don't care.
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Headache already? Wait until the real GIga AM4 board come out and the forum will be flooded with "help, strange things happen in my Giga board". People will be tearing their hair apart for like 6 months before they figure out the BIOS quirks. lachen.gif I keep discovering quirks 2 years after the purchase. So far on the UD3P:

- With BIOS F1, double boot is avoided with Turbo on.
- With BIOS F2G, you can disable turbo and double boot doesn't occur.
- My front USB 3 header works after driver installation, until reboot. After reboot, front USB3 ports give power, but devices don't get recognized. All works if i use USB3 to USB2 adapter cable, using them as USB2 instead. I even changed computer case, with the suspicion that maybe there was incompatibility between mobo and the port controller of the case. All the VIA USB drivers had bugs.
- In Linux, mouse and keyboard are dead, unless i enable IOMMU in BIOS.
- With BIOS F2G, if i change settings, i get constant boot screen that my settings are bad. You need to revert to factory defaults, boot at stock speed and then try again or something similar. I 've lost track of the exact procedure really. Last time it happened it would also refuse to work with AMD Msr Tweaker. Eventually i get it right at some point.
- Past 4.4Ghz, Cool N Quiet is lost.
- When i installed 4 RAM sticks, it would see either 12GB or something else (i don't remember, 14?). Reinstalling Windows didn't help. It decided to see 16GB, only when i changed the order on the DIMMs.
- The first VIA audio driver was causing static noise at high volumes. It was eventually corrected with newer driver. The newer driver has no noise, but sometimes, something happens and the output volume is somewhat reduced and gets back to normal after reboot.
- If you manually undervolt directly in BIOS, increasing the clock (4Ghz) and reducing the vcore, you either lose CnQ or you get "bad settings" BIOS screen. I don't remember which one. You need to keep vcore to auto and have AMD Msr Tweaker to do the undervolting. Since last time it suddenly didn't like AMD Msr Tweaker, now i have simply auto vcore (1.32v) and low LLC. It undervolts a bit... I am too tired to attempt to fix Msr Tweaker anymore.


This in a motherboard, where GIgabyte had "years of experience": biggrin.gifrolleyes.giflachen.gif And you think YOU had a headache? biggrin.gif

Yeah, i can definitely see me buying Gigabyte again! lachen.gif (unfortunately, i even bought TWO UD3P). Seriously, i bought the UD3Ps, out of fear about the longevity of the ASrock 970 extreme3 with 8320@4Ghz. But, after the Gigabyte ordeal, i now look with more understanding towards the Asrock. I mean, ok, it has weak VRM, but there are no strange things happening in the BIOS. Everything you select, simply works. Gigabyte is pure frustration on the other hand.

The poor bastards that will buy 1st gen AM4 motherboards from Gigabyte, can't even imagine what will hit them. lachen.gif

Shakes head...

This deserves a posting in the Gigabyte UD3 thread.
    
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Shakes head...

This deserves a posting in the Gigabyte UD3 thread.

Like if something will change...The motherboard has been abbandoned with a beta BIOS (F2G is Beta) for 2 years now. No driver updates for long time. Only 2 audio drivers have appeared in the website and USB 4.90 is the last VIA USB driver that was released before even Win10 and now they have put it in the Win10 compatibility section too. While it's not even ready for Win7 yet. In VIA's website, you can't find anything. It's as if the chips don't even exist.

I have also the suspicion that i *might* have a slightly defective motherboard, but i don't have the patience to unpack the 2nd UD3P i have to compare. Technically, everything is powered. But, not quite working.

If you google "Gigabyte 970 front USB 3 not working", you will find all kind of variations, on different models. Some have problems with the rear USB3 too (i don't). Others have "vanishing ports" (ports that appear and disappear randomly). Others have slow ports. Others have ports that don't give power. Others have ports that disconnect after some time. And so on. I have problem only with the front USB3 and the problem disappears if i run them as USB 2. No disconnections, no power cuts, no slowdowns.

Although my mania for doing things with a certain order tells me to keep running this, since i already "used it", by Xmas, i hope to find the mood and time, to disassemble everything and put the Biostar TA970 plus on and put the UD3P back to its box together with its sister. And if the Biostar doesn't give problems, i may buy a 2nd one. At least, the BIOS is MILES better than the Gigabyte and has even undervolting options.

http://www.overclock.net/users/335703/reviews

If it's also stable and bug free, i should buy a 2nd one. I really have an itch to get another motherboard and i think by December i will decide...
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4.7ghz look at the Evo go!

Cooler fall temperatures allowed for 65 degree Farenheit ambient temps and a new personal best stable OC. It's not for daily use, but it's fun biggrin.gif I'll post some benches later.

Edit: Benches attached if anyone is interested.

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Wow!

That's a lazy pig you have there.!

To be very honest, that board will surely live a short while at that Voltage
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Wow!

That's a lazy pig you have there.!

To be very honest, that board will surely live a short while at that Voltage

That's why it's not for daily use.
    
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4.7ghz look at the Evo Go!

Cooler fall temperatures allowed for 65 degree Farenheit ambient temps and a new personal best stable OC. It's not for daily use, but it's fun biggrin.gif I'll post some benches later.


My UD5 would need a heft amount of volts to stay stable.
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4.7ghz look at the Evo go!

Cooler fall temperatures allowed for 65 degree Farenheit ambient temps and a new personal best stable OC. It's not for daily use, but it's fun biggrin.gif I'll post some benches later.

Edit: Benches attached if anyone is interested.

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That's one lazy chip indeed dude. Your vrm's seem to dislike the amount of voltage you put in to them as well. If you are not careful you will blow that board up in pretty short order.
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