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the updated linpack makes me happy. my old phenom ii 955 got 54 gflops. moar coars ....

I would update it, but I really don't care what gflops I get. It's a stresser, not a benchmark to me. I have lots of benchmarks, don't need one more. tongue.gif
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Well I honestly don't know what to think anymore. I tried all settings (including full stock, even the memory down to the 1333 CL9 in the SPD settings and one core bumped as soon as I entered the game. But for the past 2 hours I've been running 4.5GHz @1.425 (up to 1.472 in load, but just occasionally, stays at about 1.456) and RAM at 1866 CL10, playing Sleeping Dogs, running P95 and encoding with Handbrake (it does get quite hot, my cooling is not the greatest, reached 63,6 on the cores and 75 on the socket) and have had no issues, no failed cores.

So I tend to rule out the PSU as it failed at 4.0 GHz and is doing fine at 4.5 which should draw more power. I'll do some 20 runs of IBT to see if that's fine, I've also enabled APM because it's getting hot, but it only seldom drops to 3400, stays at 4500 most of the time.

Though I didn't want to believe this, perhaps it's true and P95 really is cuckoo with the FX chips :-( but I did get a couple of resets too. On the other hand, I was changing lots of settings in BIOS because I was trying to get it to stop failing, so maybe just one of those combinations was stable... thus the resets.

On a side note, does anyone have clue as to why APM doesn't work when running Cinebench? I've seen that whenever Cinebench is running, the clocks don't throttle down at all.. pretty weird.

Here's a screenshot with how/what it's doing now:

Welcome to the dark side. sneaky.gif

But really, restarts and stuff really are instability, no way to excuse that. If you could get bluescreen info right away after you log in again from eventlog, it would help find what's wrong (memory, CPU, etc) for a quick "add voltage here" fix if you're lucky.
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the updated linpack makes me happy. my old phenom ii 955 got 54 gflops. moar coars ....

I've noticed that everyone that has been able to get these type of scores with an FX, is using Win8? (I don't have it, it looks like Win8 to me.)
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Welcome to the dark side. sneaky.gif
But really, restarts and stuff really are instability, no way to excuse that. If you could get bluescreen info right away after you log in again from eventlog, it would help find what's wrong (memory, CPU, etc) for a quick "add voltage here" fix if you're lucky.

Didn't get a single BSOD, just a couple of restarts and a freeze last night while trying to stress again with 4GHz @ 1.3v - it froze after 2h of prime. Reinstalled a fresh image of Win and now I'm stressing again. It really annoys me that these settings were stable about a week ago, I've stressed them for more than 8h each.

I'm trying to find a low voltage for stock 4Ghz to compensate for the cooling when I don't need the extra MHz... and I'm also a bit (well, more actually) disappointed that the chip needs 1.325v (it it won't fail at these settings as well) for stock clocks. It's not a good overclocking chip, not a good undervolting chip ... I'd go ahead and say it's not a good chip :-(

I had hoped for a decent one, but no luck there.
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Well, it's been stable for 6 and a half hours with prime 95 blend and some windows browsing, as soon as I started playing a game, two cores failed. I've done some alt tabbing and changes of resolutions, most likely that's when it failed. I'm going to call this a prime error with all due respect. As long as I don't get any resets or BSOD I'll just settle for that...

Truly disappointed in Prime doing this, even at stock :-(
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Well, it's been stable for 6 and a half hours with prime 95 blend and some windows browsing, as soon as I started playing a game, two cores failed. I've done some alt tabbing and changes of resolutions, most likely that's when it failed. I'm going to call this a prime error with all due respect. As long as I don't get any resets or BSOD I'll just settle for that...
Truly disappointed in Prime doing this, even at stock :-(

There is no single one program that can test your entire overall system. I don't see how Prime is the cause when your system crashes when gaming. Blaming Prime is the easy way out and doesn't solve your issue.

I would look at memory. I had wildly unstable strange results with 2 sets of memory. My third set, some server ecc memory has stabilize. Turn down any memory OC.

Unless your VID is 1.35v, use your VID vcore instead.

Use IBT or LinX also. Like a second opinion.
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the updated linpack makes me happy. my old phenom ii 955 got 54 gflops. moar coars ....

I've noticed that everyone that has been able to get these type of scores with an FX, is using Win8? (I don't have it, it looks like Win8 to me.)
i am using win8 but its the updated linpack library that was linked earlier
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There is no single one program that can test your entire overall system. I don't see how Prime is the cause when your system crashes when gaming. Blaming Prime is the easy way out and doesn't solve your issue.
I would look at memory. I had wildly unstable strange results with 2 sets of memory. My third set, some server ecc memory has stabilize. Turn down any memory OC.
Unless your VID is 1.35v, use your VID vcore instead.
Use IBT or LinX also. Like a second opinion.

I'm pretty sure I had replied but can't find my post. I totally agree, BSODs or resets should not be blamed on prime, I only meant the errors in Prime "I'm going to call this a prime error with all due respect. As long as I don't get any resets or BSOD I'll just settle for that..."

Though, as far as I remember, when the Bulldozer chips were lauched, some Steam games would reboot the PC upon launch. Oddly enough that was a compatibility issue with the new architecture that did cause system reboot.

Nevertheless, my P95 threads return errors when gaming and alt tabbing from games even at FULL STOCK. Even with the ram set at 1333 CL9 - the modules are rated 2133 CL11.
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I'm pretty sure I had replied but can't find my post. I totally agree, BSODs or resets should not be blamed on prime, I only meant the errors in Prime "I'm going to call this a prime error with all due respect. As long as I don't get any resets or BSOD I'll just settle for that..."
Though, as far as I remember, when the Bulldozer chips were lauched, some Steam games would reboot the PC upon launch. Oddly enough that was a compatibility issue with the new architecture that did cause system reboot.
Nevertheless, my P95 threads return errors when gaming and alt tabbing from games even at FULL STOCK. Even with the ram set at 1333 CL9 - the modules are rated 2133 CL11.
I've been finding that my particular rig is VERY sensitive to ram timings and to a lesser degree speeds. What is weird is that looser and slower doesn't always help it be more stable. I'm scratching my head a bit with this one ( admittedly, I'm no wizard at tweaking ram).
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I'm pretty sure I had replied but can't find my post. I totally agree, BSODs or resets should not be blamed on prime, I only meant the errors in Prime "I'm going to call this a prime error with all due respect. As long as I don't get any resets or BSOD I'll just settle for that..."
Though, as far as I remember, when the Bulldozer chips were lauched, some Steam games would reboot the PC upon launch. Oddly enough that was a compatibility issue with the new architecture that did cause system reboot.
Nevertheless, my P95 threads return errors when gaming and alt tabbing from games even at FULL STOCK. Even with the ram set at 1333 CL9 - the modules are rated 2133 CL11.
I've been finding that my particular rig is VERY sensitive to ram timings and to a lesser degree speeds. What is weird is that looser and slower doesn't always help it be more stable. I'm scratching my head a bit with this one ( admittedly, I'm no wizard at tweaking ram).

RAM ain't hard.
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RAM ain't hard.
I think the problem is css ain't smart tongue.gif
Thanks for the link however smile.gif
Multithreaded Mayhem has a lot of familiar faces in it , Glad to see so many members of the Vish club in there thumb.gif
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