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Newegg has the FX 9590 for $129 if anyone is interested .
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Given Ryzens release and performance, i am curious to know at what price most of us would consider that chip a deal at this point.

For me im thinking its gonna ave to be closer to like $89 US...but idk.
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wish frys would have shipping... they have it for 65$ lol I probably would of bought another one for a spare even tho i be going ryzen in 2 months or so.

Even tho my 8370 is a 5ghz chip well was... not sure what happen temps just been crazy lately on it...

Anyone know if newegg will price match frys? I know newegg does but not sure at that price and also when its in store ony...
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Originally Posted by cssorkinman View Post

Newegg has the FX 9590 for $129 if anyone is interested .

I've read lot's on that chip (I saw the same ad way back when an was considering it) and from what I've read it's more hassle than it's worth. Lot's of wattage and it barely (if it does at all) OC to 5.0Ghz. It comes at stock 4.7 that can be easily reached by an 8350 with nothing more than an $89 closed loop (I'm a prime example of that plus you would need at least that kind of cooler for the 95xx anyway)

In end the 95xx are nothing more than one of the better 8350's in the lot except with way higher wattage. I think if you are going to go FX the 8350 is a much better bet (just my 2 cents)
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Actually there's one actual differences between FX83XX chips and FX9XXX chips, the FX9XXX chips use different conductors that are supposed to reduce TDP by 10% when compared to the parts used in a regular FX83XX, other then that it is indeed the same silicon, also don't quote me on this, as i even forgot where i heard it, but i did heard that AMD inflated the TDP rating of the FX9XXX chip to avoid some taxes.That said, one of the issues that the FX suffers from is CPU leakage, the reason the FX9XXX didn't do so well is imho because they didn't took that into account when doing the binning process.
     
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i thought it was the e varient chips which had the lower power consumption

i wonder waht the stock voltage of the 9xx chips are at
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i thought it was the e varient chips which had the lower power consumption

i wonder waht the stock voltage of the 9xx chips are at

It is complicated. There are a lot of factors in dealing with power one has to consider. E varianets are lower TDP by default because of their physical nature and lower clocked because of it. They make decent overclockers as well but power effeciancy is a give and take. Leakage is one issue where they fall on one end of the spectrum which makes higher TDP ineffieceint as i recall. So it can clock high like a normal chip...but at some point it takes way more power. On the flip side that same physical ineffeicancy at higher TDP allows them to be better on lower end of the specturm achieving much better clocks at lower power. I believe Anandtech did a good review explaining this better than i can. I may look for the link and post it later. Good read.


http://www.anandtech.com/show/8864/amd-fx-8320e-cpu-review-the-other-95w-vishera

[Edit] found it.
Edited by gapottberg - 4/14/17 at 11:08am
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anands take is strange, their default voltage is lower than mine, and managed to OC like a champ.

my 8320e on the other hand is worthless. phenom II with a decent overclock has better IPC.

with that said i've tested 4.5ghz with 6 cores, and have the same issue, IBT fails, yet p95 stable, only 4.4ghz is stable... oh well, sometimes you win the silicon lottery, sometimes you lose. really wish i had known before wasting all this money on the motherboard. don't want to spend $30 on "restocking fees" (probably more actually) or i'd return it. sigh.

edit, more appropriate image

Edited by ocyt - 4/14/17 at 11:31am
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The table in that review has been most helpful in OCing my own 8320e. In my experience i needed a bit more voltage but i dont have or run LLC. What seems to hold true for me is if my min voltage droop is above what they listed as their stable voltages I generally get a passing reuslt. I stopped at 1.425v which droops to just above 1.3600v enough to keep me stable at 4.5GHz with plenty of headroom.
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The table in that review has been most helpful in OCing my own 8320e. In my experience i needed a bit more voltage but i dont have or run LLC. What seems to hold true for me is if my min voltage droop is above what they listed as their stable voltages I generally get a passing reuslt. I stopped at 1.425v which droops to just above 1.3600v enough to keep me stable at 4.5GHz with plenty of headroom.

what is your 8320es stock voltage?

in a way i'm extremely lucky, only that it's bad luck rather than the good kind. everyone claims they can get such good clocks, while i can't even get past turbo >: (
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