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This is a portion of the chart from the review i posted above. Take the time to read the full review but they show exactly the same behavior you are describing albiet at a higher clocks, and explain a little bit about why it happens with these e chips.

I have found their voltage table extremely useful as a baseline for finding stable voltages at various clocks. My own tables show similar trends...though my lack of LLC and unwillingness to go as high out of fear my less capable board will blow...is less complete and requires more voltage than they do. My dreams of 5.0ghz on this chip would likely meet a similar wall to yours long before i got there but dream I will.
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I'd still stay at my story that the binning of FX was just what it is - get the chip that fits into that category, slap a model number on it and that's it. If it does 3.2GHz and turbos to 4.2GHz while staying under 65W - it's an E chip. But who knows what wattage it draws @ 4.5GHz. Still think it's get the cheapest one you can get.

BTW, that 8320E from the chart didn't win any lottery lol [EDIT: didn't see LLC was lowering the voltage, I use it to up it a bit under load). Except if it doesn't draw much current... my 8320 draw very little but required a bunch of volts.
Edited by tashcz - 11/18/17 at 12:29am
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This is a portion of the chart from the review i posted above. Take the time to read the full review but they show exactly the same behavior you are describing albiet at a higher clocks, and explain a little bit about why it happens with these e chips.

I have found their voltage table extremely useful as a baseline for finding stable voltages at various clocks. My own tables show similar trends...though my lack of LLC and unwillingness to go as high out of fear my less capable board will blow...is less complete and requires more voltage than they do. My dreams of 5.0ghz on this chip would likely meet a similar wall to yours long before i got there but dream I will.

funny thing is I actually looked at that chart and missed it... but yeah at 4.5 to 4.6 they hit a voltage wall... I guess mine was just a brick wall lol.. with my 9590 I actually hit a temp wall at 5.2... with a 120x360 rad lol.... but at 5.1 it stays well within normal temps and at 5.05 it stays cool by most ppls standards (rarely even has spike to 48C average gaming temps in the 30's)
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What about FX8370E I got? smile.gif Price ain't different much.

Did you buy it recently and if so what is the batch # ?
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LOL, you are the only one that claims that the FX is faster than your ryzen CPU... Its NOT the CPU but your board dude..

Seriously, do you really think your FX is faster than ryzen when gaming...?! ryzen has 52% more IPC power so you obviously doing something wrong or there is another "bottleneck" in your system, its CAN'T be the CPU...

Even at stock my 1600 outperforms my previous FX CPU when it was running at 4.8 GHz so there is no way your claims can be credible.

I know this was a post from several months ago, but if I had a nickel for every time this dude said "my 1600," I would be a rich man. He's trying so hard for us to reassure him he made the right decision. Somebody throw him a bone tongue.gif
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I know this was a post from several months ago, but if I had a nickel for every time this dude said "my 1600," I would be a rich man. He's trying so hard for us to reassure him he made the right decision. Somebody throw him a bone tongue.gif

Really? Or are you just joking? I like my FX systems when I had them and they are still going strong for the ones I sold them too. However, they are slower then the Ryzen CPU's no two ways about that.
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Did you buy it recently and if so what is the batch # ?

Ugh... Is there a way to find out when the CPU is already lapped? biggrin.gif I remember it was made in autumn 2014, not sure where & when exactly, I do own the box still. I've bought it about a year and a few months ago. It's a medium performer, up to 4.5GHz it requires redicolusly low voltages, but above that it's a PITA. I'd say 4.8GHz is the "normal" limit for the chip under AIO water, and 4.7GHz on air, though I'm still not sure if 4.7GHz with those 7-8C more on air is worth it vs the 4.6GHz overclock. Benchmarks show no real difference.
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I know this was a post from several months ago, but if I had a nickel for every time this dude said "my 1600," I would be a rich man. He's trying so hard for us to reassure him he made the right decision. Somebody throw him a bone tongue.gif

I wasnt part of the original conversation a month ago...but it sure just seems like you are trying to stir **** up.

I cant see why anyone who bought a 1600 should feel anything but happy with their choice. It has good value for its price and it is hands down measurably faster than even the best FX in almost every metric.

However, that dosnt mean everyone with an FX should drop what they have and go buy one. A well tuned and OCed FX 8 series is still very viable for many workloads.

I personally can hit 60fps minimums on just about every game I play which is more than enough for my 60hz 1080p monitor. And that is running many games at 1440p with max or near max settings.

I really love AMD and I want to support them by buying a Ryzen system soon, but I just cant justify it with my current system being perfectly capable of satisfactory performance.

Could I squeeze a bit more out of a Ryzen? In many situations absolutely yes. It just isnt enough to make me pull the trigger. Maybe next tax season. Idk.

Anyone who is ready to pull the trigger on a new set up will find Ryzen a compelling option for many workloads and will meet the needs of a large variety of users at very reasonable price points.

I suspect they will age as well as FX have seem to as well. One can hope anyways.
Edited by gapottberg - 11/22/17 at 3:45pm
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Did you buy it recently and if so what is the batch # ?

Ugh... Is there a way to find out when the CPU is already lapped? biggrin.gif I remember it was made in autumn 2014, not sure where & when exactly, I do own the box still. I've bought it about a year and a few months ago. It's a medium performer, up to 4.5GHz it requires redicolusly low voltages, but above that it's a PITA. I'd say 4.8GHz is the "normal" limit for the chip under AIO water, and 4.7GHz on air, though I'm still not sure if 4.7GHz with those 7-8C more on air is worth it vs the 4.6GHz overclock. Benchmarks show no real difference.

Not a huge deal - thanks though.

Acts like a post 1429 by what you describe .
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Not a huge deal - thanks though.

Acts like a post 1429 by what you describe .

Is that good or bad? smile.gif
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