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So no improvements at all over the original PD chips?

basically its all the same stuff.. just lowered multi's to be with in the thermal out put of 95w. The only thing I see personally is you may get a lucky chip and oc that beast to 5.0 but from my understanding is that all the FX chips are coming from the same silicon just binned for a different rating.. some may have defects some may just not fit in the acceptable TDP limits for that class AKA a 8350 that heats up too much at 4.0 with turbo 4.2 would essentially be binned as a 8320. Hence why its a major down clock with a huge turbo boost. in theory you could produce the same effect with an 8320/8350

WOOT I have the Highest OC out of batch 1237 that has bee recorded
http://www.overclock.net/t/1331219/fx-83xx-data-collection-thread
Edited by F3ERS 2 ASH3S - 1/11/13 at 5:06pm
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So no improvements at all over the original PD chips?

basically its all the same stuff.. just lowered multi's to be with in the thermal out put of 95w. The only thing I see personally is you may get a lucky chip and oc that beast to 5.0 but from my understanding is that all the FX chips are coming from the same silicon just binned for a different rating.. some may have defects some may just not fit in the acceptable TDP limits for that class AKA a 8350 that heats up too much at 4.0 with turbo 4.2 would essentially be binned as a 8320. Hence why its a major down clock with a huge turbo boost. in theory you could produce the same effect with an 8320/8350

WOOT I have the Highest OC out of batch 1237 that has bee recorded
http://www.overclock.net/t/1331219/fx-83xx-data-collection-thread

Nice, and since I haven't said it, congrats on reaching 5Ghz, welcome to the club. thumb.gif We got some platers of food over on that wall, and you can take out a jet ski as long as you return it when done.
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basically its all the same stuff.. just lowered multi's to be with in the thermal out put of 95w. The only thing I see personally is you may get a lucky chip and oc that beast to 5.0 but from my understanding is that all the FX chips are coming from the same silicon just binned for a different rating.. some may have defects some may just not fit in the acceptable TDP limits for that class AKA a 8350 that heats up too much at 4.0 with turbo 4.2 would essentially be binned as a 8320. Hence why its a major down clock with a huge turbo boost. in theory you could produce the same effect with an 8320/8350

WOOT I have the Highest OC out of batch 1237 that has bee recorded
http://www.overclock.net/t/1331219/fx-83xx-data-collection-thread

OK Thanks smile.gif
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Nice, and since I haven't said it, congrats on reaching 5Ghz, welcome to the club. thumb.gif We got some platers of food over on that wall, and you can take out a jet ski as long as you return it when done.

LOL thanx but I prefer a good ol' pint of guinness cheers.gif I also updated most of my info on the data collection thread thumb.gif
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OK Thanks smile.gif

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Hi all,
I'm new to the FX 8350. I've upgraded from my faithful 965BE. I'm a bit confused about Core Temp and its dislike for FX chips.
Should I ignore it at idle, and trust it under load? As it is I've adjusted the offset by 9*C so my core temp reads the same as my bios. If core temp is accurate at load on the FX chips my temps at load would be reading 9*C too high, which when over clocking can make a big difference between trying to push it a bit more, or backing off. Forgive me if this has been addressed. I haven't been able to find an answer. also if anyone has advice on a temp monitor program that works better with these chips I'd appreciate it.
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I have been reading a little in the extreme systems forum.

From what Stilt said concerning Vishera:

Achieving 24/7 stability at 5.0GHz+ is not matter of how good your chip is, let alone the batch code of the CPU.
Each and every single one Vishera CPU ever manufactured will reach 5.0GHz 24/7... with sufficient cooling.

The term sufficient varies. It is anything between 10C liquid to LN2.

Only one thing is certain: 24/7 stable 5.0GHz or higher cannot currently be done on normal air or watercooling.
Because of heat <=> power consumption (motherboard).




yet there are many in here claiming stable oc's @5ghz. Kinda makes me wonder what is considered stable or if 5ghz stable is even possible. yet on the very 1st page of this thread here there are many listed 24/7 as stable in the list. . Sure I can up to 5ghz, it boots into OS and will run, but will never pass any reasonable stability test of 24 hours let alone 7 days. I think there needs to be some baseline to consider 24/7 stable. Either that or the information from the other place is wrong by the other person.
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I have been reading a little in the extreme systems forum.

From what Stilt said concerning Vishera:

Achieving 24/7 stability at 5.0GHz+ is not matter of how good your chip is, let alone the batch code of the CPU.
Each and every single one Vishera CPU ever manufactured will reach 5.0GHz 24/7... with sufficient cooling.

The term sufficient varies. It is anything between 10C liquid to LN2.

Only one thing is certain: 24/7 stable 5.0GHz or higher cannot currently be done on normal air or watercooling.
Because of heat <=> power consumption (motherboard).




yet there are many in here claiming stable oc's @5ghz. Kinda makes me wonder what is considered stable or if 5ghz stable is even possible. yet on the very 1st page of this thread here there are many listed 24/7 as stable in the list. . Sure I can up to 5ghz, it boots into OS and will run, but will never pass any reasonable stability test of 24 hours let alone 7 days. I think there needs to be some baseline to consider 24/7 stable. Either that or the information from the other place is wrong by the other person.

I saw a discussion in another thread about how stability is not a term to which the words "true" or "false" are applicable. Even at stock speeds some chips don't pass stress tests, and all CPU's degrade over time, so they all get less stable over time making the "24/7" claim meaningless since 24/7 implies your CPU can run 5.0ghz (or whatever) ad infinitum, which I promise you, it can't. Stress testing, in my eyes, is a shortcut to see if your computer will ever crash in daily usage. If you never experience a crash outside of a stress test, I would argue that your hardware is as stable as you could ask it to be.
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If I had a chip from any maker that would not pass a stress test @stock, I would be returning it. I have never had a chip fail any proven stress test @ stock speed ever. I have been buying cpus for over 15 years.
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I guess I look at it as being able to pass stability testing at 5 ghz for a reasonable amount of time. This should suggest that it will be stable for normal use at 5ghz daily.
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