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post #7341 of 14584
1/19/13 at 6:15pm
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Well, hope it stays stable for you; FX8300 @3200 MHz is what the board supports after all. If it does, at least it's safe for you to run until you get another board. Sorry you went through all this trouble though. Looking on the bright side, maybe your chip is really good and once you get a board that can handle it you'll be very happy.

I'm at 25 minutes on OCCT ("OCCT" 64-bit mode) - should I be satisfied with that and stop it now? As a side note, HWMonitor tells me that the cpu has actually only drawn 1.160v max, even though I've set it to 1.175 - should I try to walk the multiplier up a little and see if I can go 3.4-3.5 GHz on 1.175v?

EDIT: 30 mins biggrin.gif Going to see what P95 does real quick first. If it goes for 5 minutes without a core failing, I'll be satisfied that I can start trying a walk up toward 3.5 GHz again, this time @ ~1.175v.

EDIT 2: P95 started at 21:22. Will edit this post with 5-minute results if it makes it that long.

EDIT 3: Core 8 failed within 1 minute on P95. It still hasn't drawn the allotted 1.175v and has stayed at 1.160v max.
Edited by Clowerweb - 1/19/13 at 6:25pm
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post #7342 of 14584
1/19/13 at 6:22pm
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Starting to give up here.
I consistently get errors on core 7/8, and sometimes 5/6 on my MSI 990XA-GD55.
At first I RMA'd the CPU ... same result.
Then I RMA'd the motherboard ... same result.
I have tried with 3 kinds of RAM (all having no problems in memtest overnight), and 2 PSUs (Enermax 700w MODU, both working fine with an i7).

What the hell does one do at this point?
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At stock speeds you will probably need to bump the cpu voltage .04 volts or better in order to pass prime 95. What is your VID? also what are your temps and what cooling are you using?
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1/19/13 at 6:24pm
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I'm at 25 minutes on OCCT ("OCCT" 64-bit mode) - should I be satisfied with that and stop it now? As a side note, HWMonitor tells me that the cpu has actually only drawn 1.160v max, even though I've set it to 1.175 - should I try to walk the multiplier up a little and see if I can go 3.4-3.5 GHz on 1.175v?

EDIT: 30 mins biggrin.gif Going to see what P95 does real quick first. If it goes for 5 minutes without a core failing, I'll be satisfied that I can start trying a walk up toward 3.5 GHz again, this time @ ~1.175v.

EDIT 2: P95 started at 21:22. Will edit this post with 5-minute results if it makes it that long.

Well, you can be satisfied with that, as long as day to day use will be fine until you replace the board. Don't get your hopes up too high with increasing the clocks again, most likely as you go above 3.2GHz you increase the power draw above what the board can handle...
Good luck though.
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post #7344 of 14584
1/19/13 at 6:45pm
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Errors in what test? P95?
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Errors in what test? P95?

Sorry, should have been more specific.
Yes mprime (Prime95) consistently gives errors within a few minutes.
I'm bone-dry stock, and yet its not stable. p95 consistently, and sometimes Linux/Windows hangs as well.
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1/19/13 at 6:56pm
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Errors in what test? P95?
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Errors in what test? P95?

Sorry, should have been more specific.
Yes mprime (Prime95) consistently gives errors within a few minutes.
I'm bone-dry stock, and yet its not stable. p95 consistently, and sometimes Linux/Windows hangs as well.

Okay, P95 has been giving FX-83XX users fits since day one. It's been the source of the largest debate in the thread. Try OCCT and see if your results improve.

OCCT can be had here:
http://www.ocbase.com/

OCCT will also generate a complete and comprehensive set of charts regarding all of the voltage rails /CPU use and temperature that can provide clues to tweaking performance or diagnosing a problem.

Hope this helps smile.gif
Edited by Red1776 - 1/19/13 at 6:59pm
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1/19/13 at 6:58pm
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okay, P95 has been giving FX-83XX users fits since day one. It's been the source of the largest debte in the thread. try OCCT and see if your results don't' improve.

OCCT can be had here:
http://www.ocbase.com/

OCCT will also generate a complete and comprehensive set of charts regarding voltage /CPU use and temperature that can provide clues to tweaking performance.

hope this helps smile.gif

I'm not going to digress into P95 or not ... but the thing BSODs/Freezes when P95 runs ... surely that's unacceptable to everybody!
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1/19/13 at 7:01pm
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I'm not going to digress into P95 or not ... but the thing BSODs/Freezes when P95 runs ... surely that's unacceptable to everybody!

And goddamn it ... on this board, the SATA interfaces are b0rked!
It boots into memtest and Linux from a CD just fine ... and it detects HDDs, but any traffic to them == errors up the wazoo!
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post #7348 of 14584
1/19/13 at 7:02pm
Ok, after resetting the BIOS again and retweaking the following:

Memory: 7-7-7-18 @ 1.50v (still 1066, defaulted to 7-7-7-20 @ 1.60v again)
Disabled Turbo
Disabled APM
Disabled Cool 'n Quiet
4000 MHz @ 1.375v (stock default)

Leaving everything else default, now it's running OCCT again. I swear I've had these exact settings before.

6 mins, 31 secs until error, but that's a big improvement over similar settings. Could be a coincidence.

Running prime95 now.... usually cores 6, 7, 8 and 9 will fail within 2 minutes...

Temps are a little high now because I set the fan to auto (target level 1 of 9, target temp 45c (the lowest it allows)). It's at CPUTIN 42c low / 68c high.

Started @ 21:58...

Core 8 failed at 22:00, all others stable. Seems we still have instability, but a strange increase in stability over last time we were at the same settings.

Edit: Core 6 failed at 22:01, core 7 failed at 22:04.

EDIT 2: Sigh... the other 5 cores lasted though 22:08, stopped test, rerunning OCCT to see if the longer run time was a fluke.

Edit 3: Probably a fluke. OCCT failed in 3 mins 10 secs this time.... sigh....
Edited by Clowerweb - 1/19/13 at 7:13pm
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1/19/13 at 7:06pm
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okay, P95 has been giving FX-83XX users fits since day one. It's been the source of the largest debte in the thread. try OCCT and see if your results don't' improve.

OCCT can be had here:
http://www.ocbase.com/

OCCT will also generate a complete and comprehensive set of charts regarding voltage /CPU use and temperature that can provide clues to tweaking performance.

hope this helps smile.gif

I'm not going to digress into P95 or not ... but the thing BSODs/Freezes when P95 runs ... surely that's unacceptable to everybody!

I have no idea what you attempted to say there. The point is, P95 has been "bug fixed" and updated, and Optimized for Intel processors if you look at the change log. It has not for AMD's new K-15 architecture. So it's possible that the problem you are having is with the program. Using other stress programs like the aforementioned OCCT, and IBT can confirm or eliminate P95 as the problem
You are certainly welcome to continue to watch your machine freeze,hang, and BSOD if you like.
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1/19/13 at 7:29pm
Just found out that for 4.7 i needed the same amound of vcore for 50 ibt high than what i needed for 20 min of prime95 sad-smiley-002.gif, i could get a bit higher when i check my temps, but im not willing to put more than 1.55v on my chip for 24/7, i guess il stay lower
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