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What do you think of the new Swiftech H220 water loop? It appears to be throwing a scare into Corsair. Far better pump , all copper design, better radiator, 4-5 degrees cooler Celsius over H100. Corsair responded with H120 with 280 mm radiator that probably only fits in Corsair cases and a few others but their pump is still underpowered. Curious as to your take on both products. I know they are not yet in stores but based on specs your judgement.

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The longest time was at 4.0 GHz and 1.4000v (OCCT 33.5 mins), after trying to go to 4.2 GHz at various voltages and back down to 4.0 @ 1.4v, I can't get near the same stability again for some reason (OCCT now under 3 mins every time).

Like Tempey suggested, you may try disabling one of the modules. From what I've seen you usually get core 8 failing, right? Check your BIOS to see if you have Core control/core unlock or something similar and there disable the last module (and thus the last 2 cores). This will run your CPU with only 3 modules / 6 cores and should lower the power draw. Stress then and see what happens.

While I agree that this far from being the best solution BUT given your arguments that you need this PC to work so that you can do your job, you can try to work with it as a hex-core until you get the MoBo replaced. As far as we could all tell, it IS the MoBo that's causing this (though you won't be able to tell for sure until you've replaced it).

Look for core control and disable the last module, boot into windows at 4GHz and stock voltage and run some tests.

Alternately, you may want to try forgetting all about what this day has taught you for a short while, reset everything to stock settings and try to use your PC for day-to-day use at stock settings, see if you get any crashes/BSODs like that. Of course, you should back up your data, save often, don't use the only copy (as crashes can and may corrupt data) but the point being - if your PC is stable during normal use and only fails under stress testing then you may be able to simply use it as such until you can replace what's faulty.

I'm sorry you're going through this, I know the frustration you're feeling...
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At this point, I don't even care about overclocking. I just want to run stable @ stock. I'm only running 1066 MHz memory anyway, so the CPU isn't the bottlecks where performance is concerned. I just need Newegg to refund my money BEFORE I order another board, so that I have the money to order another one, and I feel that I shouldn't have to pay return shipping when they are clearly at fault for the misunderstanding (look at the board, they say FX chips @ 140w: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157305&nm_mc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel&cm_mmc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel-_-Content-_-text-_-). Yes, I made the mistake of trusting the description, but overall is that my fault or theirs?

It says FX chips @ 140w. This is false. It's their fault. I should be able to RMA for free and get a new board with the refund before returning this one.

This is the claim on the description:

CPU Type: FX / Phenom II / Athlon II / Sempron 100 Series

Supports CPU up to 140W

Support for Socket AM3+ processors

Support for Socket AM3 processors: AMD PhenomTM II X6 / X4 / X3 / X2 (except 920 / 940) / Athlon II X4 / X3 / X2 / Sempron processors

100% All Solid Capacitor Design

Supports AM3+ Processor, 8-Core CPU

Supports Dual Channel DDR3 1866(OC)

Digi Power Design

1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 Slot

2 x USB 3.0, 2 x SATA3

PCIE Gigabit LAN

5.1 CH HD Audio (Realtek ALC662 Audio Codec), Supports THX TruStudio

Supports ASRock XFast RAM, XFast LAN, XFast USB

Free Bundle : CyberLink MediaEspresso 6.5 Trial, ASRock MAGIX Multimedia Suite

Someone on the forum here had to look up the board on the ASRock site to figure out that it doesn't even support this chip: http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/970DE3U3S3/?cat=CPU It doesn't work at ANY settings (it posts and boots into Windows, it just doesn't work CORRECTLY) - the chip isn't supported period.

Newegg's description indicated that it should work fine. That's the issue.

Not sure if this has been asked yet but, what is your cpunb frequency and voltage at? and did you manually set it or is it on auto?
Edited by Ultracarpet - 1/20/13 at 3:13am
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I rely on my computer to work and not BSoD, and be fast while I run Apache, PHP, MySQL, Avast (in the background), PHPStorm IDE, Photoshop x64, Skype, and several Chrome tabs at minimum. It needs to multitask fast and especially not BSoD. I can't get that with this build at all. mad.gif.

Clowerweb
what bsod codes are you getting
use BlueScreenView ( google it if you need it ) and message back with your bs codes
Edited by 033Y5 - 1/20/13 at 4:26am
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Raystorm RS240 on its way to replace my H80. Hoping to hit 5Ghz for a 24/7 OC. I will be setting a push/pull setup on it with high cfm fans. I currently get 4.8Ghz stable at 1.45-.46 stable in regular IBT 10 passes while staying in temp range.
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Clowerweb
what bsod codes are you getting
use BlueScreenView ( google it if you need it ) and message back with your bs codes

DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION, also PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGED AREA, among others, but that should get you started.
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Not sure if this has been asked yet but, what is your cpunb frequency and voltage at? and did you manually set it or is it on auto?

Auto. (200 Mhz(?)), I know the voltage is at 1.2000v NB.

EDIT:
Current Settings:

Turbo: disabled
APM: disabled
C'nC: disabled
Multiplier: 4000 MHz
CPU voltage: 1.4000v

Everything else default.
Edited by Clowerweb - 1/20/13 at 5:11am
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DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION, also PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGED AREA, among others, but that should get you started.
Auto. (200 Mhz(?)), I know the voltage is at 1.2000v NB.

http://ohonei.hubpages.com/hub/What-Is-Page-Fault-in-Nonpaged-Area
PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGED AREA,

Because this area of memory is reserved for the windows core, it is unlikely to be caused by an error in the code. While it 'may' be the case that software (like Norton) may have stored some data in the nonpaged area, this error is usually more indicative of a hardware fault with the RAM, it may also suggest a hardware problem with the level 1 or level 2 cache, or corrupt sectors on the hard disk.

You really need to get rid of that board man and all your troubles will go
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DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION, also PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGED AREA, among others, but that should get you started.
Auto. (200 Mhz(?)), I know the voltage is at 1.2000v NB.

EDIT:
Current Settings:

Turbo: disabled
APM: disabled
C'nC: disabled
Multiplier: 4000 MHz
CPU voltage: 1.4000v

Everything else default.

what happens if you open task manager the processes tab and leave your system to idle do you get 0% cpu usage and system idle process 99

and correct if wrong but cpu-nb default is 2200 200x11
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what happens if you open task manager the processes tab and leave your system to idle do you get 0% cpu usage and system idle process 99

and correct if wrong but cpu-nb default is 2200 200x11

It's 200 Mhz, yes, although CPUZ reports it as actually being 2,200 (which would be 200 * 11 MHz in BIOS, as you stated?) Either way, the BIOS reports it at 200, CPUZ says it's 2200.

CPU is hopping between 1% - 2% idle, but I do have Chrome, Skype, HWMonitor, CPUZ, Notepad++, Thunderbird, Antivirus and other background processes, and of course at the time Task Manager running.
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DPC = deferred procedure call and it timed out waiting for the information it needed. In some cases there are hot fixes for the what causes this to happen but I really don't think that's the problem.
Your hardware situation isn't the best and I'm sure you are going to have problems If you don't address the missmatched component issues you have.
What exactly happened to your old processor? Any of your buddies have an spare that they would lend you until you get the money together for a motheboard upgrade for the 8350?
If not you could probably pick up a used quad core pretty reasonably that you could use for now.
Or as a last resort you could sell the 8350 to get cash for a processor that would be a better fit for your motherboard , ram etc.
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