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Ya man, we appreciate the info since there is a 8350 on that list, but we don't really talk about 4300s and 6300s here. tongue.gif It's cool though, leave the graphs for people who wanna see where they stand in relation to one another.
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Raystorm RS240 on its way to replace my H80. Hoping to hit 5Ghz for a 24/7 OC. I will be setting a push/pull setup on it with high cfm fans. I currently get 4.8Ghz stable at 1.45-.46 stable in regular IBT 10 passes while staying in temp range.

You mean you'll have the cooling to hit 5Ghz? About time man, you've been here forever now. wheee.gif
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They aren't close enough, not near where they should be, hence the rant. I know these things generally should go unsaid on an AMD enthusiast thread, and I might take some heat for it, but we all know it's true no matter how much we ALL (including me) back AMD and root for them. It's harder and harder for me as an AMD fanboy for 10+ years to come up with viable debates as to how they *might* equal or surpass Intel even on Intel's mid-range.

For the last 5 years since Intel managed to pass us, I've been able to create debates about how AMD killed the Pentium 3 & 4 in performance, and how they invented the x64 architecture and leased it to Intel. And how they made a huge jump in memory performance over Intel by innovating on-die memory controllers. And then they made the first dual-core processor (which was fail, but it beat hyperthreading, and Intel's PD was equally fail, but AMD started multicore).

I WANT to be able to make good arguments for AMD, but almost 6 years have come and gone since the Core 2 that put Intel ahead once again, and Intel pulls further and further ahead, while AMD is making it harder for me to win debates with the same old arguments.

I'm not understanding you when you say "Not near where they should be...". You said you understand that they don't have the same RnD budget as Intel, yet you rant on how "far" behind AMD is. Either you understand or you don't.

Fact is AMD will never catch up to Intel anymore. Accept it for what it is.

Lastly don't bring up the 77w anymore. Until you find an Intel 8 core processor that is 77w, that's not a legitimate argument.

Na na na, keep all this AMD vs Intel crap out of this thread. Not just you, anyone who feels like getting involved in this argument. This is a place of learning and information about 83** CPUs and the hardware it's combined with. We've kept this place fanboy free for months now, we don't need some vendor war to bring them here.
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Raystorm RS240 on its way to replace my H80. Hoping to hit 5Ghz for a 24/7 OC. I will be setting a push/pull setup on it with high cfm fans. I currently get 4.8Ghz stable at 1.45-.46 stable in regular IBT 10 passes while staying in temp range.

HAHA you and I almost have the same build completely! you should get 5.0!!!!! can't wait
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They aren't close enough, not near where they should be, hence the rant. I know these things generally should go unsaid on an AMD enthusiast thread, and I might take some heat for it, but we all know it's true no matter how much we ALL (including me) back AMD and root for them. It's harder and harder for me as an AMD fanboy for 10+ years to come up with viable debates as to how they *might* equal or surpass Intel even on Intel's mid-range.

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I WANT to be able to make good arguments for AMD, but almost 6 years have come and gone since the Core 2 that put Intel ahead once again, and Intel pulls further and further ahead, while AMD is making it harder for me to win debates with the same old arguments.

heres the deal.. cause you suck at buying a motherboard it appears that you have a negative attitude about AMD... lets put this straight STOP BEING THAT GUY

Now the only way to fix your problem is to buy a new motherboard.. you know why?

AM3+ FX FD8300WMW8KHK 95W Piledriver 3300MHz 2200MHz 2MBx4 8MB C0 P1.20
AM3+ FX FD8140WMW8KGU 95W Bulldozer 3200MHz 2200MHz 2MB x4 8MB B2 P1.10
AM3+ FX FD8120WMW8KGU(BE) 95W Bulldozer 3100MHz 2200MHz 2MB x4 8MB B2 P1.10
AM3+ FX FD8100WMW8KGU(BE) 95W Bulldozer 2800MHz 2000MHz 2MB x4 8MB B2 P1.10
AM3+ FX FD6300WMW6KHK 95W Piledriver 3500MHz 2000MHz 2MBx3 8MB C0 P1.60
AM3+ FX FD6120WMW6KGU 95W Bulldozer 3500MHz 2000MHz 2MB x3 8MB B2 P1.10
AM3+ FX FD6100WMW6KGU(BE) 95W Bulldozer 3300MHz 2000MHz 2MB x3 8MB B2 P1.10
AM3+ FX FD4320WMW4MHK 95W Piledriver 4000MHz 2000MHz 2MBx2 4MB C0 P1.60
AM3+ FX FD4300WMW4MHK 95W Piledriver 3800MHz 2000MHz 2MBx2 4MB C0 P1.60
AM3+ FX FD4150WMW4KGU 95W Bulldozer 3900MHz 2000MHz 2MB x2 8MB B2 P1.10
AM3+ FX FD4100WMW4KGU(BE) 95W Bulldozer 3600MHz 2000MHz 2MB x2 8MB B

this board only supports 95 watt FX processors was it mis labled on newegg no.. why?
AM3 Phenom II X4 HDZ965FBK4DGI(BE) 140W Deneb 3400MHz 2000MHz 512KB x4 6MB C2 P1.10

all of this on the support list from ASrock themselve you just suck at buying things...
Edited by F3ERS 2 ASH3S - 1/20/13 at 2:18pm
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Well, I posted a photo before, but here is a 5ghz stable, with under 60°C cores.
(using a lindaamd library for the avx capable linpack., not sure if those results mean failure, but I did get the success post)
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Well, I posted a photo before, but here is a 5ghz stable, with under 60°C cores.
(using a lindaamd library for the avx capable linpack., not sure if those results mean failure, but I did get the success post)

I would say you are good.. you can try it on very high and do 20-50 runs and if it still passes then I would say that you are stable. but welcome to the 5.0!
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[...]
heres the deal.. cause you suck at buying a motherboard it appears that you have a negative attitude about AMD... lets put this straight STOP BEING THAT GUY
[...]
all of this on the support list from ASrock themselve you just suck at buying things...

We've established that the board is an issue, and that he's been misguided buy the description, he even received a link from the manufacturer's website. But there's really no point in being rude to the man, anyone would be upset in his position, whether he did make a mistake or not when buying. We've tried to help him by suggesting some things he could try in order to still use his PC (yes, until he buys a new board). If we can't help him more there's no point in trolling him. And for sure, AMD won't get any better business if you stick up to their name on a forum, nor will we get another couple of MHz on the OC as loyalty points, so can we please keep it friendly?
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Well, I posted a photo before, but here is a 5ghz stable, with under 60°C cores.
(using a lindaamd library for the avx capable linpack., not sure if those results mean failure, but I did get the success post)

I'm also wondering if anyone knows what those negative results are all about (-1#IND00e000), from what I've seen whenever I get those, OCCT / Prime will fail, even if IBT has passed... perhaps any of you have a better understanding of the results and can help? Cheers.
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We've established that the board is an issue, and that he's been misguided buy the description, he even received a link from the manufacturer's website. But there's really no point in being rude to the man, anyone would be upset in his position, whether he did make a mistake or not when buying. We've tried to help him by suggesting some things he could try in order to still use his PC (yes, until he buys a new board). If we can't help him more there's no point in trolling him. And for sure, AMD won't get any better business if you stick up to their name on a forum, nor will we get another couple of MHz on the OC as loyalty points, so can we please keep it friendly?

im only pointing out in further detail.. especially that he irked me cause he bought an inferior board started having issues and then started blaming AMD even though there was no need for it and it was his fault.. Trust me I could have been much worse.. this a very good thread and I don't appreciate that kind of heresay only because it was his ill lack of research..

Im not trolling him... just saying there is no point to be like that.. if its his fault he needs to own it.. not blame AMD
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I'm also wondering if anyone knows what those negative results are all about (-1#IND00e000), from what I've seen whenever I get those, OCCT / Prime will fail, even if IBT has passed... perhaps any of you have a better understanding of the results and can help? Cheers.

These results just means its not 100% stable. Try upping the vcore on them and re testing you will see once you reach the required vcore for it you will get a positive number.

Ive had it happen to me countless times.

I bet itll take a hell of alot more vcore too
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I'm also wondering if anyone knows what those negative results are all about (-1#IND00e000), from what I've seen whenever I get those, OCCT / Prime will fail, even if IBT has passed... perhaps any of you have a better understanding of the results and can help? Cheers.

I found out that the negative result are not stable, so my 5ghz was not stable, after upping the voltage more i started to get positive results, then errors, and i stoped cause i was reaching the 1.6v and its to high for my liking
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Yes, I apologize for my behavior this morning. The attack on AMD was uncalled for, I was just venting general frustration, but I realize that's not an excuse for being an idiot on a public forum. I wasn't really blaming AMD for my issue (although I did say 125w was too much, and if it were 95w or 77w it would have worked fine in this board). The difference is that when I bought the chip, I knew exactly what I was getting; the same can't be said for the board. Yes, it is the board's fault, and yes it is my fault for trying to save money and cheap out on the board. To whomever said that Newegg didn't have it mislabeled though is incorrect - it says it supports FX chips up to 140w - you have to go to the manufacturer's website to see that it doesn't. Yes, I should have gone to the ASRock website to double check, but I already stated that I'm new to this sort of thing, so if Newegg's description implies that it'll work, I simply expect it to work. I don't know the kinds of things a lot of you guys know about this stuff, but I'm learning, and that's why I'm here.

The attack on AMD was uncalled for though, and I do apologize for that. I was just seeing red and decided to go off on a tangent. AMD is not to blame for the issue in question at all, unless I get a new board and find that the issue is indeed with the processor, but I doubt that, and so do most of you here who know a lot more than I do. AMD's shortcomings have nothing to do with this, and as I said, I knew exactly what I was getting when buying the chip. I actually did think it was a bad CPU until you guys helped me pinpoint the problem(s), so I'm very grateful for that biggrin.gif

On a lighter note, I did speak with Newegg's customer service and, after going off on one rep who refused to be very helpful (she even ended the chat session on me, but she was telling me that she couldn't authorize a prepaid return shipping label or give me an early refund, so I flat-out called her a liar and told her I wanted to talk to her supervisor), I finally spoke to someone who quickly set it straight. He sent me a prepaid return label and got an early refund authorized so that I can buy another board before sending this one back. So I'm very happy about that smile.gif

They also said that they will fix the product description on their site to make it more clear about the CPU support (we'll see). I directed them to the ASRock site so that they can see for themselves that the CPU isn't on the support list, even though NE have no indication of such whatsoever (quite the opposite actually, as it quite clearly implies that it should work).

Again, I very much appreciate all of you who took the time to help me here. I don't really like some of the personal attacks against me, but I had it coming (and even said I'd probably get some hate over it), so no hard feelings. I'll try to control my temper more in the future. Also, it was Saturday night and I might have had a few too many drinks before making that post, which tends to escalate things a little sometimes rolleyes.gif Alcohol, feelings of anger and frustration, and public forums aren't usually the best combination.
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Samsung SyncMaster S27A550H 27" 2ms LED LCD @ 1... A USB one that came with an older Dell PC SeaSonic M12II 750W NZXT Switch 810 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech M150 5-Button Bluetooth Wireless Generic Ergonomic w/ Gel Wrist Rest Logitech H800 Bluetooth Wireless Headset Insignia 2.1 channel desktop speakers 
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All-In-One Card Reader BOSS Executive High Back Leather Chair Arctic MX4 Thermal Compound 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE @ 4.0 GHz Biostar 880G+ AM3 mATX Gigabyte GeForce GTX 560 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws 1066 CL7 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
WD 500GB SATA II Some DVD burner Antec Kuhler H20 920 Windows 7 Home Premium 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
Acer 27" LED LCD @ 1920x1080 OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W Thermaltake Soprano RS Wireless Optical 
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