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Today I've learnt several things! :-)

1) My 8350 could should have been sold as a 8320 ... a pretty decent one too :-)
2) GOOD news - I don't need a better cooler, nor a better case to get more air flowing! So no need to spend more cash on that
3) BAD news - my chip can't do 4.7GHz with 1.5v :-) not to mention anything higher than that. I didn't try 4.6 but so far 4.5 seems to be a limit in any way. Cores 4 AND 7 fail rather quickly so the idea of disabling a module to get a better OCing hex is out of the question as well. This is what I've tried with a really cool room so temps were not an issue. No need to invest in better cooling if my chip doesn't perform well no matter the temps.
4) Sometimes you have to be prepared to get what you pay for. A chip that runs at 4.0 and 4.2 Turbo speed (*cough* it's actually 4.1 because you RARELY see 4.2).

I only wish I had taken more time to fiddle with the two 8320s I've had. Most likely one of them would have had similar performance, with the lower price.

It's been really fun hanging around here and talking about all of this with you guys, but seeing how all other 8350 perform compared to mine just makes me sad...

will you post all of you stats on that OC.. we may be able to help you out a bit. and how are you determining stability with?

I do see that your power is a bit low... these chips are monsters on power when OC'in.. I am running a 800w right nowi think 750 for 5.0 is miniimum anyone else want to chime in?
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Idk what's wrong with prime. It doesn't error or even stop worker. It just keeps running. I'm beginning to think its just a big or something? 9 + hrs hmm

one thing that has lead to the debate is that on most rigs it will be ok under stock but there have been a good share of others running it stock that it fails.. and if it does not fail at stock 4.6-4.7 is when it normally starts too.. that is why there is such a huge debate and all off us would like to see a few examples at 5.0 running it stable.. and if that does happen we would like to see where the voltages are.. but untill someone can prove us wrong that is the way it is..
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will you post all of you stats on that OC.. we may be able to help you out a bit. and how are you determining stability with?

I do see that your power is a bit low... these chips are monsters on power when OC'in.. I am running a 800w right nowi think 750 for 5.0 is miniimum anyone else want to chime in?

he isnt running 5ghz hes having trouble at 4.7. his gfx card max power draw is only 151watts so thats nearly 500watts for his cpu and rest of his system, which is plenty smile.gif
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he isnt running 5ghz hes having trouble at 4.7. his gfx card max power draw is only 151watts so thats nearly 500watts for his cpu and rest of his system, which is plenty smile.gif

good point.. i just glanced

when he mentions cores failing makes me wonder if he is solely using prime.. i can't remember but i think we had talked about that around 50 pages back.. man this thread is huge..

which that would kinda make a point about what I just said
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will you post all of you stats on that OC.. we may be able to help you out a bit. and how are you determining stability with?

I do see that your power is a bit low... these chips are monsters on power when OC'in.. I am running a 800w right nowi think 750 for 5.0 is miniimum anyone else want to chime in?
one thing that has lead to the debate is that on most rigs it will be ok under stock but there have been a good share of others running it stock that it fails.. and if it does not fail at stock 4.6-4.7 is when it normally starts too.. that is why there is such a huge debate and all off us would like to see a few examples at 5.0 running it stable.. and if that does happen we would like to see where the voltages are.. but untill someone can prove us wrong that is the way it is..

I should add this EDIT: I wasn't trying to say for his overclock but in general for 5.0... i guess I should have made that a little more clear
Edited by F3ERS 2 ASH3S - 1/21/13 at 2:50pm
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he isnt running 5ghz hes having trouble at 4.7. his gfx card max power draw is only 151watts so thats nearly 500watts for his cpu and rest of his system, which is plenty smile.gif

Exactly :-)
My max settings that are stable-ish are 1.4v BIOS - ultra high LLC - 1.456v (with spikes up to 1.472v) @4.5 GHz
I say stable-ish because Prime threw 100 warnings at me after about 1h, but the chip was breaking past 64c on the cores so *maybe* it's the temp or *maybe* it's prime.

I've tried 4.7 with 1.45v in BIOS and ultra high LLC which breakes past 1.5v during load. IBT has negative values and eventually fails. Prime does the same, as expected. Didn't even bother with OCCT given the facts... it's most likely a dud chip. My 990fxa-UD3 can't be holding me back THAT bad, other people have gone way past this with UD3 boards.

Stock VID is 1.375 and 1.415 with turbo and it actually needs those volts :-) 1.34v for 4GHz in fact, anything less fails/freezes eventually. 1.392 for 4.2 GHz else the result is the same - fail/freeze.

I've used prime to check which cores fail first. It's always 4 and 7... :-)
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Exactly :-)
My max settings that are stable-ish are 1.4v BIOS - ultra high LLC - 1.456v (with spikes up to 1.472v) @4.5 GHz
I say stable-ish because Prime threw 100 warnings at me after about 1h, but the chip was breaking past 64c on the cores so *maybe* it's the temp or *maybe* it's prime.

I've tried 4.7 with 1.45v in BIOS and ultra high LLC which breakes past 1.5v during load. IBT has negative values and eventually fails. Prime does the same, as expected. Didn't even bother with OCCT given the facts... it's most likely a dud chip. My 990fxa-UD3 can't be holding me back THAT bad, other people have gone way past this with UD3 boards.

Stock VID is 1.375 and 1.415 with turbo and it actually needs those volts :-) 1.34v for 4GHz in fact, anything less fails/freezes eventually. 1.392 for 4.2 GHz else the result is the same - fail/freeze.

I've used prime to check which cores fail first. It's always 4 and 7... :-)


i know that you said that you are not worried about temps.. this does seem a partial temp thing.. these chips like it cold.. I noticed when I ran IBT with AVX on high for 30 runs and was fine AC went up 5 degree F and boom I can't pass IBT anymore.. not sure if the actual chips or everything else but that is a good place to look

could you post us your temps in the middle of all of this.. and do you have the option of posting screen shots from all of your menus (im not familiar with houw that BIOS looks)

Your VID is just about what mine is.. i have batch 1237
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I'm curious, has anyone sent thier psu in to over current protection while overclocking these chips?
20 amps on the 12 volt rail would give you a ceiling of about 250 watts draw wouldn't it? ( not an electrical engineer , does it show?)
Are my figures within reason?
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Exactly :-)
My max settings that are stable-ish are 1.4v BIOS - ultra high LLC - 1.456v (with spikes up to 1.472v) @4.5 GHz
I say stable-ish because Prime threw 100 warnings at me after about 1h, but the chip was breaking past 64c on the cores so *maybe* it's the temp or *maybe* it's prime.

I've tried 4.7 with 1.45v in BIOS and ultra high LLC which breakes past 1.5v during load. IBT has negative values and eventually fails. Prime does the same, as expected. Didn't even bother with OCCT given the facts... it's most likely a dud chip. My 990fxa-UD3 can't be holding me back THAT bad, other people have gone way past this with UD3 boards.

Stock VID is 1.375 and 1.415 with turbo and it actually needs those volts :-) 1.34v for 4GHz in fact, anything less fails/freezes eventually. 1.392 for 4.2 GHz else the result is the same - fail/freeze.

I've used prime to check which cores fail first. It's always 4 and 7... :-)

Dude is your sig rig up to date?

if u are using the Zerotherm FZ-120 then you really have the wrong cooler installed. Ive looked on google and it only goes to am2 socket.

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2281


Could this be the reason? hard to say but its certainly why your 64C on the core at 4.5ghz
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I'm curious, has anyone sent thier psu in to over current protection while overclocking these chips?
20 amps on the 12 volt rail would give you a ceiling of about 250 watts draw wouldn't it? ( not an electrical engineer , does it show?)
Are my figures within reason?

My missus did on her rig lol

One of the kids pulled something out of the front usb ports and damaged it and it sent it into t he state you are seeing now. check if theres any damage anywhere
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Those are some nice timings for 2400 eek.gif Does it actually run those timings for you?


Well right now im actually running 10-11-11-30-1t. But ,my lowest fully stable without blowing the controller in the chip is 2400mhz at 8-10-9-27-1t I was pretty proud of that. 1.7v
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I do see that your power is a bit low... these chips are monsters on power when OC'in.. I am running a 800w right nowi think 750 for 5.0 is miniimum anyone else want to chime in?

750w is the minimum for 5Ghz... If you are also running 2 top-teir video cards.
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