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Yup, I tried all of this, but the forum users didn't seems very "tech" people so it's why I asked here. Guess there's an incompatibility between ME 1 binaries and the FX CPUs, will try to notify the problem to AMD, but I doubt it'll change something.

Ah, older game, why are they giving me so much problems rolleyes.gif
Do the hotfix work on Windows 8 or are they already included in it?

yes windows 8 it works with.. and I stillo wouldn't say that its hardware related.. IE for me to get Crysis to work I had to find a Crack... (yes i purchased the game so technically i just tweaked what i paid for) loaded it where it needed to go altered a config file... and rerouted with compatability mode to run binaries through the crack.. I also ran with elevated permisions

mind you the crack had not relation to the CPU itself.. but it was an incompability with drivers on the OS. and thus that is what i think is happening to you if i serve right that game was created before 64bt OS's really were anything..
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Yup, I tried all of this, but the forum users didn't seems very "tech" people so it's why I asked here. Guess there's an incompatibility between ME 1 binaries and the FX CPUs, will try to notify the problem to AMD, but I doubt it'll change something.

Ah, older game, why are they giving me so much problems rolleyes.gif
Do the hotfix work on Windows 8 or are they already included in it?

yes windows 8 it works with.. and I stillo wouldn't say that its hardware related.. IE for me to get Crysis to work I had to find a Crack... (yes i purchased the game so technically i just tweaked what i paid for) loaded it where it needed to go altered a config file... and rerouted with compatability mode to run binaries through the crack.. I also ran with elevated permisions

mind you the crack had not relation to the CPU itself.. but it was an incompability with drivers on the OS. and thus that is what i think is happening to you if i serve right that game was created before 64bt OS's really were anything..

Ya... Win8 is interesting when it comes to compatability. XP mode is gone now, so you don't have that, and a few old things don't work... It's a bit of a mess.
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On topic:
In regards to the -1.something values in AVX IBT, a lot of people say it is unstable but I disagree as my 5GHz OC gives that value but is game stable, bench stable and folding stable.
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On topic:
In regards to the -1.something values in AVX IBT, a lot of people say it is unstable but I disagree as my 5GHz OC gives that value but is game stable, bench stable and folding stable.

that stability things.. it does make me wonder since they are different libraries than the intel ones.. if there is only one path as opposed to many with the intels.. (this may be because I don't know exactly how it is supposed to find "the correct" answer)
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On topic:
In regards to the -1.something values in AVX IBT, a lot of people say it is unstable but I disagree as my 5GHz OC gives that value but is game stable, bench stable and folding stable.

I gave it more voltage and got actual numbers as a result.

Honestly, it makes a lot of sense. I've been seeing a lot of really, really weird things happening in Gentoo (which uses AVX and all those special instructions). Windows that just start blinking, random things not working, X crashing when resizing windows, etc.

It all went away when I bumped up the voltages and got normal results in AVX IBT.

If you want my opinion on it, there's a very large difference between AVX stable and regular stable. The reason why no one sees problems when getting the -1 result is because it's stable when you're not using the fancy instructions. When you do use the fancy instructions, you get a ton of garbage.

After seeing what I've seen, I'm strongly feeling that you don't need to be AVX IBT stable with real results (not the -1 one) unless you're actually using AVX/FMA/BMI/etc. You're not having problems gaming, benching, and folding because you're not really using AVX/FMA/BMI/etc.

After using them extensively in Gentoo, I can tell you that it's definitely not stable and -1 is not a good result.

I also saw that bumping voltage got me real numbers, but it actually showed up as unstable because occasionally the numbers that come back would not match.

If you're in Windows and running games, benches, etc, you don't need to be IBT AVX stable at all, because none of those applications are going to use those instructions.

If you're doing something like running Gentoo, you need to be getting 3.something as a result, or else not going to work right at all, and you're going to get these crazy bugs that you can't explain all the time.

IBT only reports unstable if the results are different. It's not like Prime95 where it checks for invalid values.

I don't know enough about Linpack to know what kind of results you're supposed to get, and I've seen all sorts of different ones on the internet. But they're all basically 3.something. Never -1or QND or whatever. Even 5.something is broken from what I've seen.
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would like to join. 24/7 @ 4.6GHz. one 1Hz seems to vary while idle.

LLC set to HIGH

http://valid.canardpc.com/2668919

would love advice how tweaking this further. idle temp of 31*C and max of 42*C under 100% load.

had it @ 4.8 but temps climbed over 60 pretty fast so I backed it back down. this was during the Multithreaded Mayhem event. I know I could use some memory tweaking, just not sure how to approach it yet.


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Someone asked me what my max loaded temp was @ 5.0GHz. This is is with 23c ambient.



Delta temp is 1.6C (27.1c/28.7c)
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Someone asked me what my max loaded temp was @ 5.0GHz. This is is with 23c ambient.



Delta temp is 1.6C (27.1c/28.7c)

Bloody hell thats low.

What refrigeration are you using?

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Someone asked me what my max loaded temp was @ 5.0GHz. This is is with 23c ambient.



Delta temp is 1.6C (27.1c/28.7c)

Bloody hell thats low.

What refrigeration are you using?

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hehe four rads biggrin.gif

The GPU's are going under water next week.

Welcome back Gurty biggrin.gifthumb.gif
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hehe four rads biggrin.gif

Welcome back Gurty biggrin.gifthumb.gif

Cheers man

4 rads? damn your case must be huge lol

I nearly blew up my rig this week hehe had a leakage and went all over the gfx card. dabbed the coolant off with distilled and all working now lol
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